[Fis] "I dont know!"

[joe.brenner at bluewin.ch]

Dear Krassimir, Karl and All,
My answer is that the ternary logic that is applicable is not one of three static epistemic terms (-1,0,1). One should forget such terms and look at information as an emergent process that follows a logic of energy.
  
I was never able to convince our dear friend Mark to consider the problem of a logic of energy in his GTI. I therefore look forward very much to next week's posting by Krassimir.
Best,
Joseph
----Message d'origine----
De : itheaiss at gmail.com
Date : 28/11/2023 - 18:18 (E)
À : karl.javorszky at gmail.com, fis at listas.unizar.es
Objet : Re: [Fis] "I dont know!"
 No, Karl, no!
"I don't know" means ternary logic: -1, 0, 1.
This poses a serious barrier to Shannon's theory (as well as to permutation cycles), because Shannon assumes there is always an answer, regardless of whether it is 0 or 1.
And there may simply be no answer!
This problem is solved in General Information Theory.
But about that - another time.
This is my second letter for this week, so see you next week!
With best regards,
Krassimir
 
 
  На вт, 28.11.2023 г. в 18:35 ч. Karl Javorszky <
  karl.javorszky at gmail.com> написа:
  
 
 
  
   May i rephrase your conclusion 
   
    
    
     "I don't know" 
    
    
     
    
    
     into 
    
    
     
    
    
     "I don't know and I will not look at a proposal how to gain knowledge, because the proposal does not originate from widely accepted and institutionalized authorities and the proposal proposes using well-known practices to gain radically new skills"? 
    
    
     
     
      
     
    
   
  
  
  
   
    Krassimir Markov <
    itheaiss at gmail.com> schrieb am Di., 28. Nov. 2023, 14:32:
    
   
   
    
     Dear Yixin, Eric and colleagues,
     
First: Thank you very much for the interesting discussion and useful judgments.
     
Second: I don't know!
     
It is the "I don't know" that is missing from modern binary logic computers. This pure determinism prevents moving to a level to which you and I are striving. 
     
      Ternary logic has its advantages, and it is not by chance that quantum computing seems so interesting. 
     
     
      But even with them, scientists still think "binary".
      
Therefore, I think the lesson of this discussion boils down to the phrase "I don't know"!
      
With best wishes,
      
Krassimir
      
     
    
    
     
     
      
       
        
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