<font size="3">Dear Krassimir, Karl and All,</font><div><font size="3"><br></font></div><div><font size="3">My answer is that the ternary logic that is applicable is not one of three static epistemic terms (-1,0,1). One should forget such terms and look at information as an emergent process that follows a logic of energy.</font></div><div><font size="3"> </font></div><div><font size="3">I was never able to convince our dear friend Mark to consider the problem of a logic of energy in his GTI. I therefore look forward very much to next week's posting by Krassimir.</font></div><div><font size="3"><br></font></div><div><font size="3">Best,</font></div><div><font size="3">Joseph<br></font><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left:15px;">----Message d'origine----<br>De : itheaiss@gmail.com<br>Date : 28/11/2023 - 18:18 (E)<br>À : karl.javorszky@gmail.com, fis@listas.unizar.es<br>Objet : Re: [Fis] "I dont know!"<br><br><div dir="ltr">
<font size="4">No, Karl, no!<br>"I don't know" means ternary logic: -1, 0, 1.<br>This poses a serious barrier to Shannon's theory (as well as to permutation cycles), because Shannon assumes there is always an answer, regardless of whether it is 0 or 1.<br>And there may simply be no answer!<br>This problem is solved in General Information Theory.<br>But about that - another time.<br>This is my second letter for this week, so see you next week!<br>With best regards,<br>Krassimir</font>
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На вт, 28.11.2023 г. в 18:35 ч. Karl Javorszky <
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"I don't know and I will not look at a proposal how to gain knowledge, because the proposal does not originate from widely accepted and institutionalized authorities and the proposal proposes using well-known practices to gain radically new skills"?
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Dear Yixin, Eric and colleagues,
<br>First: Thank you very much for the interesting discussion and useful judgments.
<br>Second: I don't know!
<br>It is the "I don't know" that is missing from modern binary logic computers. This pure determinism prevents moving to a level to which you and I are striving.
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Ternary logic has its advantages, and it is not by chance that quantum computing seems so interesting.
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But even with them, scientists still think "binary".
<br>Therefore, I think the lesson of this discussion boils down to the phrase "I don't know"!
<br>With best wishes,
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