[Fis] Eastern civilization versus Western one

Sun Nov 10 13:40:39 CET 2024

Lovely! To the point.

PS: how did you manage to get a picture embedded in a message to the list
and not having it removed by the server?

Eric Werner <eric.werner at oarf.org> schrieb am So., 10. Nov. 2024, 13:35:

> Now wait a minute guys! One of my ancestors claims his culture is the
> oldest and brightest - without it we would still be swinging in the trees
> trying to do AI on a backwards propagating branch!
>
> Not sure which one of the above it was but it was some 350 thousand years
> ago that they met,
>
> Eric
>
>
> On 11/10/24 11:32 AM, Krassimir Markov wrote:
>
> Dear WANG CHEN,
>
> There are various misconceptions about the development of civilization,
> one of them is that Eastern civilization is the beginning of human history.
> Locked in a closed environment, people are usually unable to tap into
> sources other than those available in their information stores.
>
> The Eastern culture must be so old that it no longer remembers important
> things, such as the fact that on the Balkan Peninsula there is another
> culture at least three thousand years older than it...
>
> I mean the highly developed civilization that precisely processed gold and
> had a highly developed culture from more than 7000 years ago.
> Please see https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_Necropolis__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!RoTeXmbciKr1JT3CFqZzkiHvU24Ob6QEEJnuDL4uEWi09B-B17YHMkHh-b-G_6Cznc5X9937udTMF-6VhG2eilfgZNY$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_Necropolis__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YyrPnPFA$>
> as well as the Bulgarian calendar, which is calculated to precede the
> Chinese one!
>
> The 7529 Bulgarian year is currently running out!
> Please see:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bgkalendar.com/?lang=en__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!RoTeXmbciKr1JT3CFqZzkiHvU24Ob6QEEJnuDL4uEWi09B-B17YHMkHh-b-G_6Cznc5X9937udTMF-6VhG2eFDoEEps$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bgkalendar.com/?lang=en__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0Y3tfzB6Q$>
>
> And one more note about one of your publications (
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sciforum.net/manuscripts/4008/manuscript.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!RoTeXmbciKr1JT3CFqZzkiHvU24Ob6QEEJnuDL4uEWi09B-B17YHMkHh-b-G_6Cznc5X9937udTMF-6VhG2euaxssJc$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sciforum.net/manuscripts/4008/manuscript.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YgGCJoH8$>
> ).
>
> It is a mistake to think that energy and information are the same thing.
> Please read the following article published ten years ago:
>
> Kr. Markov. Energy versus Information. In. Proc. of Int.Conf.
> "Knowledge-Dialog-Solution", Kiev, Ukraine. ITHEA 2014. ISSN 1313-0087. pp.
> 122 – 125. https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://foibg.com/ibs_isc/ibs-31/IBS_ISC-No31-KDS2014.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!RoTeXmbciKr1JT3CFqZzkiHvU24Ob6QEEJnuDL4uEWi09B-B17YHMkHh-b-G_6Cznc5X9937udTMF-6VhG2eaHfUdAo$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://foibg.com/ibs_isc/ibs-31/IBS_ISC-No31-KDS2014.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YH0c4GbU$>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Krasimir
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:08:49 +0800 (CST)
> Subject: Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 116, Issue 7
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> Dear everyone,
>
>
> The value and significance of anything should be measured in the long
> river of history. The impact of Western science on humanity in the past 300
> years is indeed significant, but the negative effects of Western science
> are also too great. In a thousand years, humans may only remember Eastern
> cognition and civilization, because it was the East that created
> civilization and inspired Western civilization and Western science. Without
> Eastern civilization, humans would likely still be primitive, let alone
> modern science.
>
>
> Thank you everyone!
>
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