[Fis] Eastern civilization versus Western one

Eric Werner eric.werner at oarf.org
Sun Nov 10 13:34:56 CET 2024


Now wait a minute guys! One of my ancestors claims his culture is the 
oldest and brightest - without it we would still be swinging in the 
trees trying to do AI on a backwards propagating branch!

Not sure which one of the above it was but it was some 350 thousand 
years ago that they met,

Eric


On 11/10/24 11:32 AM, Krassimir Markov wrote:
> Dear WANG CHEN,
>
> There are various misconceptions about the development of 
> civilization, one of them is that Eastern civilization is the 
> beginning of human history. Locked in a closed environment, people are 
> usually unable to tap into sources other than those available in their 
> information stores.
>
> The Eastern culture must be so old that it no longer remembers 
> important things, such as the fact that on the Balkan Peninsula there 
> is another culture at least three thousand years older than it...
>
> I mean the highly developed civilization that precisely processed gold 
> and had a highly developed culture from more than 7000 years ago.
> Please see https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_Necropolis__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Q_NytrrIBHofloElg2Cgmj_tX_50OojnwWIgz7VJy6qD_Cbw0zZD55GvizzkSyU9UDJOIj61uPol1htWsy3PySA$  
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_Necropolis__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YyrPnPFA$>
> as well as the Bulgarian calendar, which is calculated to precede the 
> Chinese one!
>
> The 7529 Bulgarian year is currently running out!
> Please see:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bgkalendar.com/?lang=en__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Q_NytrrIBHofloElg2Cgmj_tX_50OojnwWIgz7VJy6qD_Cbw0zZD55GvizzkSyU9UDJOIj61uPol1htWWsqWn9s$  
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bgkalendar.com/?lang=en__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0Y3tfzB6Q$>
>
> And one more note about one of your publications 
> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sciforum.net/manuscripts/4008/manuscript.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Q_NytrrIBHofloElg2Cgmj_tX_50OojnwWIgz7VJy6qD_Cbw0zZD55GvizzkSyU9UDJOIj61uPol1htWP0lnNys$  
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sciforum.net/manuscripts/4008/manuscript.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YgGCJoH8$>). 
>
>
> It is a mistake to think that energy and information are the same thing.
> Please read the following article published ten years ago:
>
> Kr. Markov. Energy versus Information. In. Proc. of Int.Conf. 
> "Knowledge-Dialog-Solution", Kiev, Ukraine. ITHEA 2014. ISSN 
> 1313-0087. pp. 122 – 125. 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://foibg.com/ibs_isc/ibs-31/IBS_ISC-No31-KDS2014.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Q_NytrrIBHofloElg2Cgmj_tX_50OojnwWIgz7VJy6qD_Cbw0zZD55GvizzkSyU9UDJOIj61uPol1htWUEFgA4U$  
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://foibg.com/ibs_isc/ibs-31/IBS_ISC-No31-KDS2014.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YH0c4GbU$>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Krasimir
>
>
>
>
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> From: shda1 <shda1 at 163.com>
> To: FIS <fis at listas.unizar.es>
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> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:08:49 +0800 (CST)
> Subject: Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 116, Issue 7
>
>
> Dear everyone,
>
>
> The value and significance of anything should be measured in the long 
> river of history. The impact of Western science on humanity in the 
> past 300 years is indeed significant, but the negative effects of 
> Western science are also too great. In a thousand years, humans may 
> only remember Eastern cognition and civilization, because it was the 
> East that created civilization and inspired Western civilization and 
> Western science. Without Eastern civilization, humans would likely 
> still be primitive, let alone modern science.
>
>
> Thank you everyone!
>
>
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