[Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13

Sun Nov 10 16:18:11 CET 2024

Dear colleagues,
I do not deny that European history has made certain contributions to civilization, but historical civilization needs to be demonstrated. The archaeological relics of the Eastern civilization, especially the Chinese civilization, are extremely rich and splendid, while the real historical relics of Europe are very few and archaeological relics, and most of the history of Europe comes from the description of later generations. It is said that all the bronzes unearthed in Europe combined are not as big as a single bronze ding in China.

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Today's Topics:

  1. Eastern civilization versus Western one (Krassimir Markov)
  2. Re: Eastern civilization versus Western one
     (Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov)

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:32:13 +0200
From: Krassimir Markov <itheaiss at gmail.com>
To: fis <fis at listas.unizar.es>
Subject: [Fis] Eastern civilization versus Western one
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Dear WANG CHEN,

There are various misconceptions about the development of civilization, one
of them is that Eastern civilization is the beginning of human history.
Locked in a closed environment, people are usually unable to tap into
sources other than those available in their information stores.

The Eastern culture must be so old that it no longer remembers important
things, such as the fact that on the Balkan Peninsula there is another
culture at least three thousand years older than it...

I mean the highly developed civilization that precisely processed gold and
had a highly developed culture from more than 7000 years ago.
Please see https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_Necropolis__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YyrPnPFA$
as well as the Bulgarian calendar, which is calculated to precede the
Chinese one!

The 7529 Bulgarian year is currently running out!
Please see:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bgkalendar.com/?lang=en__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0Y3tfzB6Q$

And one more note about one of your publications (
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sciforum.net/manuscripts/4008/manuscript.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YgGCJoH8$ ).

It is a mistake to think that energy and information are the same thing.
Please read the following article published ten years ago:

Kr. Markov. Energy versus Information. In. Proc. of Int.Conf.
"Knowledge-Dialog-Solution", Kiev, Ukraine. ITHEA 2014. ISSN 1313-0087. pp.
122 ? 125. https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://foibg.com/ibs_isc/ibs-31/IBS_ISC-No31-KDS2014.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!TR_KLialWMWA_xILZr7-q-s_3SsjkFpXJqVKfEvtaZjHv_-5F38aeZmMuagO8EwC3nidL7az4x0YH0c4GbU$

Sincerely,
Krasimir

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Dear everyone,

The value and significance of anything should be measured in the long river
of history. The impact of Western science on humanity in the past 300 years
is indeed significant, but the negative effects of Western science are also
too great. In a thousand years, humans may only remember Eastern cognition
and civilization, because it was the East that created civilization and
inspired Western civilization and Western science. Without Eastern
civilization, humans would likely still be primitive, let alone modern
science.

Thank you everyone!
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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:49:52 +0200
From: "Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov" <plamen.l.simeonov at gmail.com>
To: Krassimir Markov <itheaiss at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fis] Eastern civilization versus Western one
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Dear Krassimir,

This is a very true remark and correct reference. There was a pre-flood
advanced civilization around the Black Sea region and the Balkan peninsula,
a fact that has been conveniently ignored by the historians and
archaeologists from both East and West denying their common roots. There is
no such thing as East vs. West. It can be only both East and West.

Best,

Plamen
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