[Fis] With or without math?

[Louis Kauffman]

Dear Krassimir,
Yes. With!
But if ‘It from Bit” means a participatory universe as with Wheeler, then we need to have 
FormalMath+Cognizers
to understand and work with it.
In fact Mathematics as a Way of Thinking
is indeed Formality+Cognition.
Best,
Lou
P.S. I have a slideshow related to this theme. I will send it to Krassimir. If anyone else would like to see it, just write privately to me at
loukau at gmail.com