[Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 117, Issue 14

Fri Dec 6 00:57:27 CET 2024

Dear Prof. Dr. Thomas Görnitz,
Please answer three simple questions:
1. What is your definition of “information” ?
2. What makes information truly the fundamental entity ?
3. How can AQIs develop both material objects and their properties ? Please
give an example!
With respect,
Krassimir

На чт, 5.12.2024 г. в 22:58 <fis-request at listas.unizar.es> написа:

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> From: "Prof. Dr. Thomas Görnitz" <goernitz at em.uni-frankfurt.de>
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> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 21:55:03 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Fis] Five Clouds over Fundamental Information Science
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> Dear all,
> I would like to add a few comments about Cloud 5.
> If information is indeed the fundamental entity, an opinion I share, then
> it is necessary to tie it to the natural sciences and especially to physics
> as their foundation. That is why I have been developing the consequences of
> a theory of abstract quantum information, AQIs, as a new basis for physics
> for a long time.
> The basis of physics is provided by quantum theory. Its essential aspects
> are:
> 1. Quantum theory is the physics of the precise. Only when it really has
> to be or becomes very precise does quantum theory come into play.
> 2. Quantum theory is so precise that it can grasp that mere possibilities
> can produce real actions.
> This concerns such possibilities that cannot be imagined as unknown facts,
> as in classical probability theory. In our everyday behavior, it is natural
> for us to also be influenced by pure possibilities, that is, by
> possibilities that have not yet become unknown facts.
> 3. Possibilities combine multiplicatively. This corresponds to the fact
> that in quantum theory, the state space of a complex system is constructed
> by the tensor product of the state spaces of those parts that combine to
> form the complex system.
> The explanatory principle of science is to construct complex systems from
> simple systems. Due to the tensor product, in quantum theory the system as
> a whole has many more new and different properties than the sum of the
> parts from which it was constructed.
> This mathematical explanation of the New and Different no longer makes it
> necessary to use the concept of emergence for the transition to something
> new.
> A quantum particle has a countably infinite-dimensional state space and a
> quantum field has an uncountably infinite-dimensional state space. This
> obviously has nothing to do with simplicity.
> The simplest possible quantum structure has a two-dimensional state space.
> Something simpler is impossible.
> So far, a two-dimensional state space is usually assigned to a property of
> a quantum particle, e.g. its spin or polarization.
> Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker was the first to point out the possibility
> of constructing quantum particles from – as we would formulate it today –
> quantum bits with his theory of Ur-alternatives, which he developed in the
> 1960s, based primarily on philosophical considerations.
> In 1972, Weizsäcker put forward the thesis that a proton is 10^40 Ure,
> i.e. quantum bits.
> Weizsäcker used the term information in the way it is generally used, as
> something that has a meaning. He rejected an absolute concept of
> information.
> However, this overlooks the fact that in cosmic evolution, meaning can
> exist for the first time for the first living beings. Before the existence
> of life, there are forces, but for planets or stars, nothing has meaning.
> Meaning always has a large subjective component, but physics aims at the
> objective.
> In 1980, Weizsäcker had also invited John A. Wheeler to the 4th conference
> on the Ur-Theory and its consequences. Wheeler spoke there about “The
> Elementary Quantum Act as Higgledy-Piggledy Building Mechanism.” In 1990,
> Wheeler then gave a lecture with the title “It from Bit”, which is still
> very advertising-effective today.
> A crucial step for the later successes was to become even more abstract
> than Weizsäcker.
> The simplest structure must also be the one with the lowest energy.
> According to Max Planck's formula E = hc / λ, it must therefore have the
> maximum expansion. The simplest, an AQI, is therefore not a small particle
> or anything spatially tiny, but a cosmically extended structure. Only 10^41
> of them can form something as localized as a proton.
> Since “information” in normal language use is always understood as laden
> with meaning, it has proven useful to introduce a new term for this form of
> abstract and absolute quantum bits, for the AQIs: “protyposis”, “that which
> is pre-embossed”.
> Since one can certainly not imagine anything under this term, one cannot
> develop any misconceptions with it.
> Matter itself and also the properties and forms of matter are special
> formations of AQIs. They can be transmitted between sender and receiver by
> photons, which are also structures made of AQIs.
> Properties can become significant information for living beings by causing
> actions.
> This is certainly understandable.
> A lot of research work has been done since Weizsäcker's beginnings. It was
> shown how the particles of relativistic quantum mechanics can be
> constructed from quantum bits in Minkowski space without and with rest
> mass. [1] <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn1>, [2]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn2>
> · It was explained why the gauge interactions of the electromagnetic, weak
> and strong interactions have the precise groups U(1), SU(2) and SU(3). [3]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn3>, [4]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn4>
> · A cosmological model was also developed. [5]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn5>, [6]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn6> For this, it was
> shown that with the abstract and still meaning-free quantum bits, AQIs, the
> phenomena for which inflation, dark energy and dark matter were invented
> either do not exist or can be explained. [7]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn7>
> The many particles that have been invented for these three postulates have
> so far eluded all observation and experiment.
> Such a new scientific understanding of matter and also of quantum
> information has made it possible to explain consciousness in a scientific
> way.
> The brain is the tool necessary for the generation of consciousness.
> Consciousness is a structure of AQIs that can appear as the entangled
> properties of entangled photons localized in a living brain. Consciousness
> acquires its meanings in the course of biological evolution and individual
> development.
> Now, with the AQIs, it has also become understandable that consciousness
> can produce real actions on the brain and, through it, on the rest of the
> body. [8] <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn8>, [9]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn9>, [10]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn10>
> An overview of this theory as it stood in 1985 is available in German and
> in the translation of Weizsäcker's work “Aufbau der Physik”. [11]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn11> A more up-to-date
> summary is available in English in a Springer Essentials. [12]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn12>
> A detailed description of the mathematical structure and the philosophy of
> quantum theory and its implications for our understanding of life and
> consciousness exists in German. [13]
> <#m_4256754085922029258_m_-7728518728971281123__edn13> An English
> translation is in preparation.
> In summary, I can state once again:
> The simplest quantum structure for mathematical reasons, an AQI, has a
> two-dimensional state space. Because of this mathematical structure, it is
> often referred to as a quantum bit, although it is not yet information in
> the sense of meaning.
> But the AQIs develop both material objects as well as their properties.
> Properties of objects and structures can become meaningful information for
> living beings. Structures of meaningful information are ultimately also the
> thoughts in our consciousness.
> This touches on *Cloud 1 and Cloud 2*. Properties of DNA form the
> behavioral recipes for all life forms – *Cloud 3*.
>
> ------------------------------
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> (2024) Understanding Quantum Theory / basic ideas and concepts, 2nd ed,
> Hanser, Munich
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