[Fis] AI Discussion--Part 1 (by Yixin Zhong)

[Marcus Abundis]

Dear Zhong,


In reading 1.1 of your S&T manifesto I recall a quote from Aristotle:

'Man is the metre of all things, the hand is the instrument of instruments,
and the mind is the form of forms.”

– AND there is this interesting note on music you might appreciate:

‘The history of the study of the human hand is permeated by a sense of awe.
Described by Aristotle as the “instrument of instruments”, the hand was
seen as the unique tool of the intellect and as the bodily organ that best
denoted the distinction of humans from “brutes”. Not only was it wondrously
engineered, but it also served as a subtle register of emotion, as a device
for computation, as a formal means of communication in rhetoric and sign
language, and as a prime visual site for the exercise of the 'art of
memory'. In this last capacity, it performed a particularly notable role in
music.’

> from Kemp, M. Science in culture. Nature 409, 666 (2001).
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.1038/35055614__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UMWUVwauUTmXZO8_00p_-bgguMywLGEOTfUrYFnrAKkhPg4KKNF3NoWUec2uOZ_EBFtHQ9mWbnztUFFM$ 


– Discussion on issues/demands/advances around 'the hand' actually to date
to the pre-Socratic Anaxagoras (at least). That said, claiming 'Neither
science nor technology existed in the early primitive time' seems a bit odd
and to refer to 'The Secret . . .of S&T' ´– this does not seem entirely c
orrect. Existential empiricism seems to be the true root of all science,
and surely there was eary empirical fire building, hunting, cave painting,
hand axes, stone chipping in our ancestors. EACH of these roles, still
TODAY, require some high level of empirical skill, so how does one
differentiate this from other tools, science, and related processes? For
myself, to build fire from rubbing two sticks together is an exhausting
task, and trying to chip a stone/obsidian arrow or spear head is a skill I
cannot even begin to exhibit . . . although my cave paintings are quite
good.


I think it is better to refer to the Upper Paleolithic Revolution as a
better starting point, with science merely one area of many likely cultural
advances. I discuss this matter of hands in the advance of intelligence in
my video on Super-Intelligence (
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11oFq6g3Njs&t=3s__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UMWUVwauUTmXZO8_00p_-bgguMywLGEOTfUrYFnrAKkhPg4KKNF3NoWUec2uOZ_EBFtHQ9mWbnLwZT7m$ ) starting at minute 4–
which you may find interesting.


I will comment on other parts as I have time. I hope you understand we BOTH
argue for such a paradigm shift, but our approaches differ.


Sincerely,


Marcus
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