[Fis] The 10 Principles

[Bruno Marchal]

Dear Pedro,


> On 18 Sep 2020, at 20:01, Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.iacs en aragon.es> wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> Thanks to Jose Javier for his comments. Regarding the loop you mention about distinction, you are right, but this is a very characteristic of life (see that Maturana and Varela already said something pretty similar in their Tree of Knowledge). In the other biological principles that follow (below)  I try to clarify that notion in several directions, particularly concerning signaling systems, a concept which was completely ignored until well in the 1990s. Your second comment may be partially responded looking at those further principles dealing with the symbolic communication via language and the social narratives, not far from what you have pointed. Thus I include the whole principles herein.
> 1. Information is distinction on an adjacent difference.
> 2. Information processes consist in organized action upon differences collected onto structures, patterns, sequences, messages, or flows.
> 3. Information flows are essential organizers of life's self-production process –the life cycle– anticipating, shaping, and mixing up with the accompanying energy flows.
> 4. Proto-phenomena of meaning, knowledge, and cognition (& intelligence) emerge via signaling systems of living cells, fully developed in the action/perception cycle of central nervous systems.
> 

That needs some strong infinity axioms in the ontology, incompatible with the idea that a brain is Turing emulable.

Fundamentally, the matter which made the lining cells originated in the information treatment already emulated by the universal number relation in arithmetic.

Many things here works for the human sort of information, but to make information relying on some primitive matter prevent the natural solution of the mind-body problem that the universal machine or number already provide.

To make that matter playing some role here can lead to a reductionist conception of number and machine already refuted by the incompleteness phenomenon.

In arithmetic, things go in this way: Numbers => universal numbers => differentiating consciousness fluxes => emergences of the first person plural physical reality => emergence of human => human consciousness.

Digital Mechanism in the cognitive science extends Darwin up to the very origin of the physical laws, from the immaterial information treatment brought by the Turing universal relation among natural numbers.

This remark is concerned only with the fundamental question, and might be not of interest for the problem of applied human information theory, though.





> 5. Information/communication exchanges among adaptive life-cycles underlie the complexity of biological organization at all scales.
> 6. It is symbolic language what conveys the essential communication exchanges of individuals —and constitutes the core of human "social nature."
> 7. Human information can be transformed into efficient knowledge by following the "knowledge instinct", further enhanced and delimited by collectively applying rigorous methodologies.
> 8. Human cognitive limitations are partially overcome via "knowledge ecologies", where knowledge circulates and recombines socially in a continuous actualization that involves "creative destruction" of theories, practices, and disciplines.
> 9. Narratives become encapsulated forms of “natural intelligence”, tailored to capture collective attention and memory, and essential for the cohesion of social, political, and economic structures.
> 10. Information science proposes a new, radical vision on how information and knowledge surround individual lives, with profound consequences for scientific-philosophical practice and for social governance.
> 
> Briefly referring to the other discussion track (Christophe), I quite agree with situating the origins of (genuine) meaning with living beings, but have some trouble with "constraints" when generally applied to biological cognition. I think they may be more useful in other fields (originated in kinematics, they become more and more volatile as used in Dynamic Systems Theory, and similarly weakened when going from AI to biological cognition). For instance,  given 3,000 genes in Ecoli, organized in mixed clusters of fiendish complexity, how do you establish meaningful constraints? Or can even attribute separate "functions"? You may see in DOI: 10.1016/j.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002 <https://www.researchgate.net/deref/http%3A%2F%2Fdx.doi.org%2F10.1016%2Fj.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002?_sg%5B0%5D=nH-ziIzFNlPKAqMszwKA9aJSdUF_He_Rfcal3jUKXaF_lvDrbTWXcTEDtf5uNRaHZMzJ0MFczgM3J-aub54-p6oiQA.Vi1baoaYqIl4vlby-pQVd58ob8urom6m0dhZo1yJ26_NjwihWirad9bxSivcVUymzy-vS1FcL9dD4ZQ7UDtz_w>   the very dimensions of this ontology problem.
>  <https://www.researchgate.net/deref/http%3A%2F%2Fdx.doi.org%2F10.1016%2Fj.pbiomolbio.2015.07.002?_sg%5B0%5D=nH-ziIzFNlPKAqMszwKA9aJSdUF_He_Rfcal3jUKXaF_lvDrbTWXcTEDtf5uNRaHZMzJ0MFczgM3J-aub54-p6oiQA.Vi1baoaYqIl4vlby-pQVd58ob8urom6m0dhZo1yJ26_NjwihWirad9bxSivcVUymzy-vS1FcL9dD4ZQ7UDtz_w>
> Regarding Marcus' comment on life as imprecisely defined (and whether viruses or Gaia are 'alive'), the fundamental issue in natural sciences is "explaining" rather than defining. And fortunately the advancement in our explanations of life in last decades has been fantastic. Life can now be characterized in every basic aspect with amazing depth. One cannot give a precise definition of life, but one can provide a list of essential characteristics, and at the center are the informational ones. Empirically, the point is that information appears to be so ingrained in the molecular organization of life that scores of new bio-disciplines have been recently launched around it: bioinformatics, bioinformation, biocomputation, all the "omic" fields, signaling science, etc. Biosemiotics could be included too, but Hélas, most biosemioticians continue to "read" the DNA meaning via the genetic code, rather than exploring the "signals" abduced from the environment and "distinctionally worked out and transcribed in genes--from which ultimately "meaning" emerges.
> 
Just to be sure, I agree with this, but eventually Nature itself is a pattern emerging from the relation between universal numbers; some playing the role of environment for others.



> About viruses concretely, they have been essential in the origins of eukaryotic complexity and in the dynamic balance of marine and terrestrial ecosystems... irrespective on how we consider their degree of "aliveness". And finally "non comment" about some (baiting?) expressions in your previous reply. 
> 
The problem of defining consciousness is real (and solved in the Mechanist frame). I don’t see any such problem with life, where the boundaries are just a bit arbitrary. Is a cigarette box alive? It has a complex reproduction cycle, involving actions on the human brain, so why not?

The question of consciousness is more difficult. Eventually its Mechanist solution forces to abandon Aristotle Metaphysics (the existence of a physical universe “out there” for a more Pytahgorean or Platonic (numbers or ideas) ontology.

Best,

Bruno



> I see right now the careful "review" by Loet: better for a next occasion!
> Best--Pedro
> 
> PS. The Three Messages per Week are counted following the international business week (from Monday to Sunday included).
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