[Fis] New Dialog on Social Systems

Sun Nov 29 00:07:55 CET 2020

Pedro, looks like you've achieved an extraordinary act of Omnology.
What's Omnology?
Omnology—the aspiration to omniscience. anacademic base for the promiscuously curious, a discipline that concentrates onseeing the patterns that emerge when one views all the sciences and the arts atonce.

The Omnologist Manifesto

Weare blessed with a richness of specializations, but cursed with a paucity ofpanoptic disciplines—categories of knowledge that concentrate on seeing thepattern that emerges when one views all the sciences at once.  Hence we need a field dedicated to thepanoramic, an academic base for the promiscuously curious, a discipline whosemandate is best summed up in a paraphrase of the poet Andrew Marvel: “Let usroll all our strength and all Our knowledge up into one ball, And tear ourvisions with rough strife Thorough the iron gates of life.”

Omnology is a science, but one dedicated to the biggest pictureconceivable by the minds of its practitioners. Omnology will use every conceptual tool available—and some not yetinvented but inventible—to leapfrog over disciplinary barriers, stitchingtogether the patchwork quilt of science and all the rest that humans can yetknow.  If one omnologist is able toperceive the relationship between pop songs, ancient Egyptian graffiti, mysticism, neurobiology, and the origins of the cosmos, so beit.  If another uses mathematics to probetraffic patterns, the behavior of insect colonies, and the manner in whichgalaxies cluster in swarms, wonderful. And if another uses introspection to uncover hidden passions and relatethem to research in chemistry, anthropology, psychology, history, and the arts,she, too, has a treasured place on the wild frontiers of scientific truth—theterra incognita in the heartland of omnology.

Let me close with the words of yet another poet, William Blake, on theultimate goal of omnology:

To see a World in a Grain of Sand

And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,

Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand

AndEternity in an hour.

HowardBloom, 2001

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From: Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>
To: fis at listas.unizar.es
Sent: Sat, Nov 28, 2020 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Fis] New Dialog on Social Systems

 Dear Joseph and colleagues, 
  Let me first cordially thank to the contributors who have chimed in the list and expressed their appreciation. About your reflection, yes, it was a neat transdisciplinary exercise. It was an initial idea from Andrei that we two crystallized during the IS4SI venue in Berkeley. In some sense it is unusual business, given the compartmentalized structure of most research, but at the same time it may be the natural way to look at such "information objects" of extreme complexity as societies are. We need a bunch of the perspectives capable of saying anything interesting or relevant about them. For medieval thinker Raymond Lulli this handling of heterogeneous perspectives was the intellectual "Ars Magna".  It represents the continued recombination processes withing the "ecologies of knowledge" of our colleague Yixin. And it was one of fundamental information principles I presented last month.

  And to draw some more water to my own mill, quite many principles of those variegated disciplines might be put in connection with the principles of information science. Information science and information philosophy would appear as the "unofficial handlers" of that intuitive Art. 
  Best regards --Pedro

  El 28/11/2020 a las 10:31, Joseph Brenner escribió

#yiv0252685978 #yiv0252685978 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv0252685978 #yiv0252685978 p.yiv0252685978MsoNormal, #yiv0252685978 li.yiv0252685978MsoNormal, #yiv0252685978 div.yiv0252685978MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv0252685978 a:link, #yiv0252685978 span.yiv0252685978MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0252685978 a:visited, #yiv0252685978 span.yiv0252685978MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0252685978 p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv0252685978 pre {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv0252685978 span.yiv0252685978EmailStyle19 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} _filtered {}#yiv0252685978 div.yiv0252685978Section1 {}#yiv0252685978  Dear Pedro, Dear Andrei,    Many thanks to you both for the opportunity to have participated in this remarkable project! I look forward to reading all the papers, especially those of some of the non-FIS contributors with whom I have lost contact. It just occurred to me that this Special Issue is an exemplary Transdisciplinary Project, of the kind that IS4SI is supposed also to help develop. We could either just say: Nous faisons de la Transdisciplinarité sans le savoir or we could use this concept in some way. I offer this thought for your consideration during the 3rd International Congress on Transdisciplinarity which is in progress essentially on-line for the next six months. Comments welcome.    Best wishes,    Joseph         From: Fis [mailto:fis-bounces at listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan
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 Subject: [Fis] New Dialog on Social Systems     Dear FIS Colleagues, You may remember the announcement that Andrei Igamberdiev and me circulated last year on a special issue in BioSystems on the "Evolutionary Dynamics of Social Systems--Looking for a New Dialog". We are glad to tell that the edition is finally over and the contributions (more than 20) of this special issue can be freely visited and downloaded during 50 days, until will 13 January 2021, in the link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/journal/biosystems/special-issue/107DGX9V85V  Quite a few contributors belong to our list: Joseph Brenner & Andrei Igamberdiev (reflexive transformation of reality), Loet Leydesdorff (codes in inter-human communications), Howard Bloom (biopolitics: bacterial roots of the new autocracies) , Yagmur Denizhan (from archaic to modern myths), Wolfgang Hofkirchner (the contemporary Great Bifurcation), Pedro Marijuan & Jorge Navarro (acceleration of cultural change).... There are also contributions from the Cliodynamics school (on political stability of societies), from Adrian Bejan (constructal nature of social evolution), from Nicholas Christakis' team (selective mating in human evolution), from Andrei Khrennikov (entropy and quantum effects in decision making), etc.  You may have a previous glance on our editorial presenting the issue: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0303264720301489 Hope you will find it an interesting and useful special issue. Best--Pedro ------------------------------------------------- Pedro C. Marijuán Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group    pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/ -------------------------------------------------      
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