[Fis] Discommunication

[Jose Javier Blanco Rivero]

Dear Joseph & Gordana,

  When looking for scientific soundness it seems often obvious to focus on
the precision and elaboration of singular concepts. However, concepts
rarely work alone; they are entangled in semantic fields, types of
discourse, common places (*tópos koinós*) and so on. Therefore, I would
suggest, why don't we focus on the vocabulary we would need in order to
clearly set the problems we are interested in and the reach our conceptual
abstractions should have?
  I believe that thinking theoretically consists, in some Wittgensteinian
vain, in designing language games and that scientific communication consist
in convincing others to speak our language (or being convinced by others to
speak their language) and phrase problems our way.

Best,

JJ

El lun., 11 may. 2020 a las 6:06, Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic (<
gordana.dodig-crnkovic en mdh.se>) escribió:

> Thanks, Joseph for your interesting reflection.
>
> What would you say of this example of an analysis by leading UK
> statistician of miscommunications we are massively exposed to in the form
> of “Number theatre”?
>
> BBC One - The Andrew Marr Show, 10/05/2020, Professor Sir David
> Spiegelhalter: Here is the whole ten minutes of @d_spiegel
> <https://twitter.com/d_spiegel>  talking such refreshing sense about
> COVID19, numbers and risk: *https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08csg28
> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08csg28>*
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Gordana
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Fis <fis-bounces en listas.unizar.es> on behalf of Joseph Brenner <
> joe.brenner en bluewin.ch>
> *Date: *Monday, 11 May 2020 at 10:36
> *To: *"fis en listas.unizar.es" <fis en listas.unizar.es>
> *Subject: *[Fis] Discommunication
>
>
>
> Greetings and best wishes for the health and safety of all.
>
>
>
> The subject of discommunication, defined as an attempt to pervert the
> process of communication of information itself, was implicit in our
> previous discussion. The term is not used rigorously. Miscommunication
> conveys the same idea as misinformation, failure in communication, for any
> reason. Discommunication should convey the additional idea of intent to
> mislead, *etc. *
>
>
>
> Discommunication seems to me to refer more directly than in the
> disinformation case to the consequences for the sender as well as receiver.
> In popular language, one talks about people who “can’t stop lying” or who
> “lie so much they no longer can discern truth from falsehood”.  One, of
> many, current examples of discommunication, *grandeur nature*, supports
> this interpretation.
>
>
>
> Joseph
>
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