[Fis] Fwd: Covid-19 immune therapy
Pedro C. Marijuan
pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es
Sun Mar 15 21:22:31 CET 2020
Dear All,
The exchanges below have been taken from Plamen's authors list about
immune overreaction to COVID-19. I think it is of general interest.
Best--Pedro
>
> Dear Plamen,
> Cytokine storm is still a big therapeutic problem similar to sepsis.
> It's been known to arise in SARS patients. Here is a good summary:
>
> https://www.sinobiological.com/cytokine-storm-cytokine-storms-a-5800.html
>
> Treatment in infection related cytokine storm is like walking on thin
> ice. One needs to turn down the lymphocytes' overreaction without
> harming the immune defense. That is why corticosteroids are actually
> counter indicated. Using standard immunosuppressants would be similar
> unless they are carefully targeted like the OX40 inhibition.
> Nevertheless, I am curious what exactly was done and how does it
> differ from corticosteroid action (e.g. - Cyclosporine also blocks
> immune signaling very much upstream and antiproliferative drugs kill
> off protective lymphocytes).
>
> Best regards,
> Anastas
>
> One can try curcumin for a start. See
> http://iv.iiarjournals.org/content/29/1/1.full
> <http://iv.iiarjournals.org/content/29/1/1.full>
> Best,
> Arran
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 1:27 AM Plamen <plamen.l.simeonov at gmail.com
> <mailto:plamen.l.simeonov at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> just briefly:
> here is what Bob Ulanowitz just shared with me. You may also share
> this with others who may find it helpful.
>>
>>
>> I'm very excited right now by something I just heard on NPR. Italian
>> doctors are reporting some success with saving grave,elderly patients
>> by giving them auto-immune suppressant drugs. Three days ago I wrote
>> to my sister (a pathologist) that is exactly what should be tried.
>>
>> About 15 years ago the frozen remains of young explorers who had died
>> of the 1918 flu were discovered and autopsied. It was revealed that
>> they were killed by their own healthy immune systems run amok.
>>
>> Now last week a fellow by the name of Menachery ran some experiments
>> on mice that were exposed to COVID-19 like virus. He discovered that
>> young mice were not affected much, but mortality was high with old
>> mice. Furthermore, the immune systems of the old mice had run
>> wild and
>> killed them.
>>
>> So why not try treating old human patients with auto-immune
>> suppressant drugs?
>>
>> Voila!
>>
>> More later,
>>
>> Bob
>>
--
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