[Fis] New Course Novelties
Pedro C. Marijuan
pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es
Fri Oct 4 13:31:47 CEST 2019
Dear Marcin and colleagues,
Nice to hear from you. I think it will be quite fertile the new
interaction between FIS list and IS4SI board. On the one side, the
concern we share about developing further organization is very positive.
In my personal opinion there should be a few important quasi
"continental" Chapters (eg, US, China, EU, Japan, perhaps India & Latin
America...), plus national Sections, and individuals acting as promoters
engaged with the creation of Sections/Chapters. Calling them
Ambassadors, Delegates, or Representatives is a matter of taste. The
role of the Secretariat should be highlighted, I think, as it is along
this via that those promoters should be supported (perhaps previously
proposed by dedicated members of the board or the acting chairs). My
suggestion is that in the board discussions of the Strategic Plan we
settle the details of these matters. But in the meantime, I suggest that
we START TO ACT and send to Annette the coordinates of those parties
potentially interested in building a national section/chapter somewhere.
It is very difficult creating a complex organization from scratch, we
have to advance step by step and also to take risks.
And on the other side, perhaps we have not been paying attention to the
existing _symbiosis_ between FIS list and IS4SI. Actually, the latter
was originated from a FIS conference (Beijing 2010), and it is a fact
that the list has been playing a significant role of continuity in
between the successive conferences--Moscow, Vienna, Gotteburg, Berkeley.
But we have not been taking care of fertilizing that implicit
symbiosis. Plenty of attendants of those conferences could have been
inscribed in the list--young graduate and PhD students particularly (as
Gordana has commented me offline). IS4SI itself lacks sufficient
membership... Part of the problem is the lack of a cohesive
intellectual path for the "common future". For every veteran FISer and
every IS4SI board member represents a differentiated intellectual
interest and research program. Fine, as it should be. But let us also
devote some time to articulate a few common directions.
If someone would ask me to describe just three headlines for those main
directions, I would respond: 1) THE GREAT DIVIDE: ANIMATE VERSUS
INANIMATE INFORMATION. 2) THE NUCLEAR INFORMATIONAL CONVERGENCE: CELLS,
ORGANISMS, SOCIAL ENTITIES. 3) THE INFORMATION ERA SCHISM: INFO SCIENCE
VERSUS INFO TECHNOLOGY (David vs. Goliath!).
And with this I have already spent my "three cents" for this week...
Greetings to all,
--Pedro
El 03/10/2019 a las 9:24, Marcin SCHROEDER escribió:
> Dear Pedro, Joseph and other FIS colleagues,
> I am just starting my work at the new university and I am not yet
> ready to engage more substantially in my new responsibilities in
> IS4SI. However, I already started teaching and looks like I will be
> ready with the huge paperwork soon.
> At this moment only few words about chapters. I think it is a very
> important direction of the development of IS4SI. The location of
> biannual summit changes continent and each time (for obvious reason -
> cost of travel) there is shift of the audience. There are many other
> reasons for formation of chapters. Probably the most important are
> continuity and recruitment of new members. For this reason I proposed
> in Berkeley to establish the function of ambassadors of IS4SI
> understood as local representatives of the organization in countries
> when we don't have active members (e.g. Board members). My proposal
> was approved at the General Meeting of IS4SI at the Summit in
> Berkley. I was approached by some participants of the summit with
> questions about the possibility to start a local chapter. For
> instance, Rafal Maciag from Jagiellonian University in Krakow, Poland
> volunteered to recruit members for the chapter and to coordinate its
> formation. There are many people interested in the study of
> information in Poland (there are uasually some participants from
> Poland at IS4SI summits), but there is no organization of this type
> with interests outside of computer science. I am thinking about
> formation of Japanese chapter. I talked to (interested) individuals
> from other countries (e.g. Romania, Italy).
> The main issue is that the people who are engaged in the formation of
> a chapter need some authority to recruit members for IS4SI, i.e. to
> identify themselves as representing IS4SI. For this reason (and for
> other reasons), I think it will be good to have ambassadors.
> Regards,
> Marcin
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:56 PM Pedro C. Marijuan
> <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es <mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>> wrote:
>
> Dear Joseph,
>
> Thanks for the response. For me the event was quite curious, the
> opportunity to watch some parties close to the "guru" category, to
> respire the atmosphere of Silicon Valley, and also the opportunity
> to watch the steady advancement of our Chinese colleagues. Indeed
> the organization of a strong (IS4SI) National Chapter like they
> have done, could be suggestive for Europeans and US parties. Don't
> you think that we should promote these "continentals"
> arrangements? A similar US Chapter a EU Chapter --each one with
> its own thinking style and focus-- would provide more leverage for
> the common "Study of Information", including the foundations of
> information science and information philosophy as well.
>
> About changing the titles of strings, it depends! In some cases it
> looks better to maintain them (e.g. for people who could be
> interested in later consult) and in others it is better to clarify
> it is a different subject...
>
> Best wishes--Pedro
>
> El 01/10/2019 a las 18:32, Joseph Brenner escribió:
>>
>> Dear Pedro,
>>
>> Thank you for all the good work! From All, I really look forward
>> to some impressions from Berkeley, having missed it.
>>
>> I agree with three messages per week, and take this opportunity
>> to ask a question about their titles. From time to time, if it
>> looks as though a long string of messages is starting, I change
>> the title of mine to make it more specific. Is this desirable or
>> undesirable?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Fis [mailto:fis-bounces at listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of
>> *Pedro C. Marijuan
>> *Sent:* mardi, 1 octobre 2019 14:44
>> *To:* 'fis'
>> *Subject:* [Fis] New Course Novelties
>>
>> Dear FIS & IS4SI Colleagues,
>>
>> We start this 23rd year of activities in the list with the
>> novelty commented in my last message: the incorporation of IS4SI
>> Board members. We will count with a network of a dozen
>> correspondents or so who will keep all of us updated on a variety
>> of fields belonging to "the study of information" on a seasonal
>> basis. Of course all members of the list are invited to
>> participate in this periodic informative contact too. Whatever
>> matters to our common interest on information might be reflected
>> by someone in the list. The new purpose is that this list
>> becomes not only an arena of discussion, as we have so much
>> accumulated in the past (see
>> https://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/ ), but also a
>> dynamic repository of exciting ideas & criticisms, of relevant
>> scholarship of articles and bibliography, of new insights on
>> contemporary problems, etc. Everyone in his/her style, we could
>> work as a collective intelligence trying to make better sense of
>> our strange times.
>>
>> For a start I would suggest a rough evaluation of the past
>> meeting in Berkeley (could it be possible some comment from your
>> side, Terry?). It was really an experience listening to
>> technological avantgarde's prognostics & criticisms. Possible
>> exits to the contemporary crossroads are difficult to foretell...
>> In my opinion, a monumental misunderstanding of information
>> underlies a good portion of the conceptual disorientation among
>> the cognoscenti. I will try to argue more concretely about this
>> along the debates of this New Course. The new inscribed parties
>> may present themselves and produce their arguments when they wish
>> (with the traditional limitation of two messages per week).
>>
>> But we are far less people than before in the list (sadly the
>> University of Zaragoza's mindless application of the European Law
>> on Data Protection decimated this list), so to facilitate the new
>> functioning, maybe relaxing the two messages per week could be a
>> good idea now. What about putting the limit in three messages per
>> week?
>>
>> Finally, to the group of veteran FISers who have spent 20 years
>> or more in this list, a strong hug. Let us hope the new venture
>> with IS4SI will mean a new horizon of creativity and influence
>> for our long-term project.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>> --Pedro
>>
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