[Fis] New Course Novelties.The Question of Chapters

Joseph Brenner joe.brenner at bluewin.ch
Wed Oct 2 19:18:52 CEST 2019

Dear Pedro and All,


In answer to Pedro’s specific question, I agree that further Chapters would
be a very desirable goal. For me, however, the term ‘Chapter’ is quite
heavy. I think first we should look at the process and see how the nucleus
of a new Chapter might first be formed. For the time being, I personally
know no-one in Switzerland interested in information whom I could contact.
Does anyone else? Perhaps we could consider a regional basis- Southern
France, Northern Italy, Austria plus CH?


As to the titles of notes in a string, I think my title of this one answers
my question. It is the same and different (sorry).


Best wishes,





From: Fis [mailto:fis-bounces at listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Pedro C.
Sent: mercredi, 2 octobre 2019 13:53
To: fis at listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] New Course Novelties


Dear Joseph,


Thanks for the response. For me the event was quite curious, the opportunity
to watch some parties close to the "guru" category, to respire the
atmosphere of Silicon Valley, and also the opportunity to watch the steady
advancement of our Chinese colleagues. Indeed the organization of a strong
(IS4SI) National Chapter like they have done, could be suggestive for
Europeans and US parties. Don't you think that we should promote these
"continentals" arrangements? A similar US Chapter a EU Chapter --each one
with its own thinking style and focus-- would provide more leverage for the
common "Study of Information", including the foundations of information
science and information philosophy as well.


About changing the titles of strings, it depends! In some cases it looks
better to maintain them (e.g. for people who could be interested in later
consult) and in others it is better to clarify it is a different subject...


Best wishes--Pedro


El 01/10/2019 a las 18:32, Joseph Brenner escribió:

Dear Pedro,


Thank you for all the good work! From All, I really look forward to some
impressions from Berkeley, having missed it.


I agree with three messages per week, and take this opportunity to ask a
question about their titles. From time to time, if it looks as though a long
string of messages is starting, I change the title of mine to make it more
specific. Is this desirable or undesirable?


Best wishes,





From: Fis [mailto:fis-bounces at listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Pedro C.
Sent: mardi, 1 octobre 2019 14:44
To: 'fis'
Subject: [Fis] New Course Novelties


Dear FIS & IS4SI Colleagues,

We start this 23rd year of activities in the list with the novelty commented
in my last message: the incorporation of IS4SI Board members. We will count
with a network of a dozen correspondents or so who will keep all of us
updated on a variety of fields belonging to "the study of information" on a
seasonal basis. Of course all members of the list are invited to participate
in this periodic informative contact too. Whatever matters to our common
interest on information might be reflected by someone in the list.  The new
purpose is that this list becomes not only an arena of discussion, as we
have so much accumulated in the past (see
https://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/ ), but also a dynamic
repository of exciting ideas & criticisms, of relevant scholarship of
articles and bibliography, of new insights on contemporary problems, etc.
Everyone in his/her style, we  could work as a collective intelligence
trying to make better sense of our strange times. 

For a start I would suggest a rough evaluation  of the past meeting in
Berkeley (could it be possible some comment from your side, Terry?). It was
really an experience listening to technological avantgarde's prognostics &
criticisms. Possible exits to the contemporary crossroads are difficult to
foretell... In my opinion, a monumental misunderstanding of information
underlies a good portion of the conceptual disorientation among the
cognoscenti. I will try to argue more concretely about this along the
debates of this New Course. The new inscribed parties may present themselves
and produce their arguments when they wish (with the traditional limitation
of two messages per week).

But we are far less people than before in the list (sadly the University of
Zaragoza's mindless application of the European Law on Data Protection
decimated this list), so to facilitate the new functioning, maybe relaxing
the two messages per week could be a good idea now. What about putting the
limit in three messages per week? 

Finally, to the group of veteran FISers who have spent 20 years or more in
this list, a strong hug. Let us hope the new venture with IS4SI will mean a
new horizon of creativity and influence for our long-term project.

Best regards


Pedro C. Marijuán
Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es



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