[Fis] What is a machine? Numerical Paths. Information Properties

[Joseph Brenner]

Dear All,

 

On Nov. 4, 2019, Jerry wrote:

 

It is possible to give a logically rigorous path that connects heteropathic
scientific antecedents to emergent heteropathic consequences by numerical
paths.

 

My first question is whether or not the numerical paths which connect
antecedents and consequences operate without loss of information. If so,
such an information channel would seem quite magical. Second, I would
greatly appreciate further information or a reference regarding Peirce's
"breadth and comprehension as properties of information". I can understand
breadth, more or less metaphorically, but comprehension is jargon, unless it
is a Whiteheadian term I have missed. Thank you. 

 

Best wishes,

 

Joseph

 

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From: Fis [mailto:fis-bounces at listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Jerry LR
Chandler
Sent: lundi, 4 novembre 2019 03:01
To: fis
Cc: annette.grathoff at is4si.org
Subject: Re: [Fis] What is a machine?

 

List, 

Hi Annette, 





On Nov 3, 2019, at 4:42 PM, annette.grathoff at is4si.org wrote:

 

 ...where a centralized nervous system and brain analyses signals incoming
from many different cells and sub-cellular systems and integrates them into
a global feeling which aids as evaluation capacity in decision making.
Descartes had to deliberately exclude this topic from the sciences for
reasons quite understandable at his times, but today?
Is the evaluation capacity and evaluation depth of machines in any way
comparable to the one of biological systems or is it a complete new path in
the history of prioritizing?

 

Thank you for focusing a deeper perspective on the well-worn metaphors about
mathematical machines.  

 

What do you think is the role of information-bearing symbols in the possible
forms of machines?

Is there a truth function that connects abstract machines to the logic of
reality?

(Is this the constraint that you believe Descarte declined to address?) The
bipolarity of Quantum theory (QED) seems to address the your issues from a
sub-atomic perspective. Or hav I mis-interpreted you intended meaning?

 

Numerous scientific symbol systems are used routinely in the everyday
pragmatism of doing science of reality.  Why?  Why so many different symbol
systems?  Are numerous symbol systems actually necessary for human
communication of information?

 

Can you imagine one "machine language" that could serve to communicate
information, irrespective of the particular scientific symbols used by
humans?

 

The writings of C S Peirce (breath and comprehension as properties of
information) and of J S Mills (homeopathic and heteropathic representational
structures of emergence) seem to lurking in the philosophic ether that
motivates these distinctions.

 

W.R.T 

Is the evaluation capacity and evaluation depth of machines in any way
comparable to the one of biological systems or is it a complete new path in
the history of prioritizing?

 

It is possible to give a logically rigorous path that  connects heteropathic
scientific antecedents to emergent heteropathic consequences by numerical
paths. Such a path  embraces the notion of mappings between scientific
notations and correspondence between the logical terms of scientific
notations.  I published a short paper on this in a conference proceedings a
couple of years ago; the thread of logic is by extension of scale and by
abductive scopes of meanings of propositional terms.

 

Cheers

 

Jerry

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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