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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>On Nov. 4, 2019,
Jerry wrote:</span></font><font size=4><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.5pt'>It is possible to give a logically rigorous path that connects
heteropathic scientific antecedents to emergent heteropathic consequences by
numerical paths.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>My first question is
whether or not the numerical paths which connect antecedents and consequences operate
without loss of information. If so, such an information channel would seem quite
magical. Second, I would greatly appreciate further information or a reference
regarding Peirce’s “</span></font><font size=4><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.5pt'>breadth and comprehension as properties of information”.
</span></font><font size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>I can understand
breadth, more or less metaphorically, but comprehension is jargon, unless it is
a Whiteheadian term I have missed. Thank you.</span></font><font size=4><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.5pt'> </span></font><font size=2
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>Joseph<font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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Fis [mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Jerry LR Chandler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> lundi, 4 novembre 2019 03:01<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> fis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> annette.grathoff@is4si.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Fis] What is a
machine?</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.5pt'>List, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.5pt'>Hi Annette, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>On Nov 3, 2019, at 4:42 PM, <a href="mailto:annette.grathoff@is4si.org">annette.grathoff@is4si.org</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div><span style='caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-variant-caps: normal;
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-converted-space><font size=4
color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.5pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:white'> ...</span></font></span><font size=4
color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.5pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#333333;background:white'>where a centralized nervous system and brain
analyses signals incoming from many different cells and sub-cellular systems
and integrates them into a global feeling which aids as evaluation capacity in
decision making. Descartes had to deliberately exclude this topic from the
sciences for reasons quite understandable at his times, but today?</span></span></font><font
size=4 color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.5pt;font-family:
Arial;color:#333333'><br style='caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-variant-caps: normal;
text-align:start;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'>
<span style='background:white'><span style='caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51);
font-variant-caps: normal;text-align:start;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
float:none;word-spacing:0px'>Is the evaluation capacity and evaluation depth of
machines in any way comparable to the one of biological systems or is it a
complete new path in the history of prioritizing?</span></span></span></font><font
size=4><span style='font-size:12.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>Thank you for focusing a deeper perspective on the well-worn metaphors
about mathematical machines. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>What do you think is the role of information-bearing symbols in the
possible forms of machines?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>Is there a truth function that connects abstract machines to the logic
of reality?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>(Is this the constraint that you believe Descarte declined to address?)
The bipolarity of Quantum theory (QED) seems to address the your issues from a
sub-atomic perspective. Or hav I mis-interpreted you intended meaning?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>Numerous scientific symbol systems are used routinely in the everyday
pragmatism of doing science of reality. Why? Why so many different
symbol systems? Are numerous symbol systems actually necessary for human
communication of information?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>Can you imagine one “machine language” that could serve to
communicate information, irrespective of the particular scientific symbols used
by humans?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>The writings of C S Peirce (breath and comprehension as properties of
information) and of J S Mills (homeopathic and heteropathic representational
structures of emergence) seem to lurking in the philosophic ether that
motivates these distinctions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>W.R.T <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background:white'>Is
the evaluation capacity and evaluation depth of machines in any way comparable
to the one of biological systems or is it a complete new path in the history of
prioritizing?</span></span></font><font size=4><span style='font-size:12.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>It is possible to give a logically rigorous path that connects
heteropathic scientific antecedents to emergent heteropathic consequences by
numerical paths. Such a path embraces the notion of mappings between
scientific notations and correspondence between the logical terms of scientific
notations. I published a short paper on this in a conference proceedings
a couple of years ago; the thread of logic is by extension of scale and by
abductive scopes of meanings of propositional terms.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.5pt'>Jerry<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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