[Fis] RV: THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL? (R.Capurro)
Ken Herold
kherold at hamilton.edu
Mon May 18 17:09:51 CEST 2015
On further reflection, my remarks towards Dino were a theoretical
clarification that bibliography and its putative extension beyond printed
media _should_ be considered universal. In practice, bibliographic methods
and bibliometrics are captive to our specific aims and methods--in this
case we are properly reminded by Dino that all assumptions should be
checked and that no data vizualizations are presumed to be complete without
explicit description of the "problem area" being visualized. I do not go
so far as Popper to suggest that the pre-visualization problem set is an
independent world, but it is otherwise useful I think to conceptualize the
dynamic (and only static by convenience) totality of real problem research
activities as something, e.g. Floridi's infosphere, If the information
science abstracted from librarianship and documentation tells us anything,
our processing of what we term this totality as recorded knowledge or
cultural heritage reflects its fragmentation as well as its robust creative
potential. New categories and classifications follow new discoveries and
rediscoveries and rethinking. As usual the boundaries are vague and I
agree and suggest that something is always going on between disciplines. I
further suggest that in fact a particular kind of intuition amounts to a
cultural system, a topic I am presently writing on.
Cheers, Ken
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Brenner <joe.brenner at bluewin.ch>
wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I agree with Rafael that there is an anti-realist flavor to Popper's
> concept of problems. However, it indicates to me an intiution that there is
> something important going on between disciplines. This is a dynamic aspect
> which I feel is not captured by diagrams such as Loet's :-) in which the
> connections between disciplines are represented by sets of lines.
>
> I would not be so hard as Dino on bibliometrics as such, but I think that
> once classifications and maps have been established, it is important
> to talk about where to go next.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Joseph
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>
> *To:* fis at listas.unizar.es
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 17, 2015 1:17 PM
> *Subject:* [Fis] RV: THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL?
> (R.Capurro)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De:* Rafael Capurro [rafael at capurro.de]
> *Enviado el:* sábado, 16 de mayo de 2015 9:34
> *Para:* PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ
> *Asunto:* Re: [Fis] THE FOURTH GREAT DOMAIN OF SCIENCE: INFORMATIONAL?
>
> Karl Popper once suggested (Conjectures and Refutations, p. 67) that we
> should not think in terms or "subject matter(s)" or "disciplines" but in
> terms of "problems". Problems do not arise within a fixed definition of a
> discipline ("essentialism") but within a tradition where a theory is being
> discussed. In this sense, theories are in some sense "disciplines" or can
> be conceived as "loose clusters" of theories. But Popper speaks about a
> "world of problems in themselves" which is a kind of Platonism not only
> because it separates such "problems in themselves" from their connection to
> the world _as_ perceived (ie. interpreted) by humans, but also because it
> creates a knowledge hierarchy by giving theoretical knowledge a higher
> status than practical knowledge. Thirty years ago (sic) I wrote some
> thoughts on this issue. See: http://www.capurro.de/trita.htm
>
>
> Rafael
>
>
>
> Rafael
>
>
> It is important to say that Rosembloom suggested a new way of seeing
> disciplines. For him, any discipline is composed by 4 great scientific
> domains (these domains are not disciplines). For example: biophysics = L +
> P (chapter 2).
> To be a great domain there are requisites (chapter 6) and we defend that
> Informational is the 4th scientific domain.
> The problem is to verify (with bibliometrics) if this is a good approach.
> I think Loet's method can be a very good to make this verification.
>
> Best,
>
> Moisés André Nisenbaum
> Enviado do meu tablet
> Em 15/05/2015 12:43, "Dino Buzzetti" <dino.buzzetti at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> And what about history, philosophy, philology and so on ? aren't they
>> sciences at all ? what's the epistemological ground of your
>> "classification"
>> of sciences ? isn't the absence of maths in the map a problem at all ?
>> aren't
>> biology, physics, computer science, and other natural sciences, mentioned
>> in philosophy of science, history of science and so on ? is the history
>> of
>> science an historian's or a natural scientist's business ? do natural
>> scientists
>> care about it at all ? or isn't it anybody's concern the extension of
>> bibliometric
>> criteria to the evaluation of research in the domains of history,
>> philosophy,
>> and so on ?
>> Best, -dino buzzetti
>>
>>
>> On 15 May 2015 at 10:25, Loet Leydesdorff <loet at leydesdorff.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Soren,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We formulated at p. 591 of: Loet Leydesdorff, Stephen Carley, and Ismael
>>> Rafols, Global Maps of Science based on the new Web-of-Science
>>> Categories, <http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1202/1202.1914.pdf>
>>> *Scientometrics* 94(2) (2013) 589-593; <open access
>>> <http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11192-012-0784-8>> [
>>> software <http://www.leydesdorff.net/overlaytoolkit/>], as follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “The organization into these four groups (biomedical, physical,
>>> environmental, and social sciences) is now provided as another (optional)
>>> partition within the Pajek (.paj) file containing the base map, and is also
>>> made available as input to VOSviewer.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The partitioning into four and six domains was generated by my
>>> co-authors. I prefer to use the 19 disciplines on the basis of factor
>>> analysis of the matrix. However, one can ask for a four-factor solution,
>>> and then one is free to designate the factors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the figure below, I overlaid Pedro’s 23 publications included in WoS
>>> in terms of these four major domains. Making such portfolio overlays is the
>>> main purpose of the technique.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The nodes are sized with the log(n+1); n is the number of publications.
>>> (The “+1” prevents single publications from disappearing.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Loet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS. This is my second mailing during this week. L.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Loet Leydesdorff
>>>
>>> *Emeritus* University of Amsterdam
>>> Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)
>>>
>>> loet at leydesdorff.net ; http://www.leydesdorff.net/
>>> Honorary Professor, SPRU, <http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/>University of
>>> Sussex;
>>>
>>> Guest Professor Zhejiang Univ. <http://www.zju.edu.cn/english/>,
>>> Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, ISTIC,
>>> <http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html>Beijing;
>>>
>>> Visiting Professor, Birkbeck <http://www.bbk.ac.uk/>, University of
>>> London;
>>>
>>> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Dino Buzzetti formerly
>> Department of Philosophy University of Bologna
>>
>> currently
>> Fondazione per le Scienze Religiose Giovanni XXIII
>>
>> via san Vitale, 114 I-40125 Bologna BO
>> e-mail: dino.buzzetti(at)gmail.com
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> Distinguished Researcher at the African Centre of Excellence for Information Ethics (ACEIE), Department of Information Science, University of Pretoria, South Africa.
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> Hochschule der Medien (HdM), Stuttgart, Germany
> Capurro Fiek Foundation for Information Ethics (http://www.capurro-fiek-foundation.org)
> Distinguished Researcher at the African Centre of Excellence for Information Ethics (ACEIE), Department of Information Science, University of Pretoria, South Africa.
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> Editor in Chief, International Review of Information Ethics (IRIE) (http://www.i-r-i-e.net)
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