[Fis] Thanks to Rainer Feistel

[Rainer Feistel (IOW)]

Thank you, Pedro, for your kind comments and support, and
all the FIS community for the inspiring discussion.

As a result of that, I have added reference to the Jamon-Jamon
movie to an updated version of the article. Assuming that BioSystems
does not publish such an updated "preprint", I have posted the update
at https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.12224.80647__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!R_H-GOVGqdKtkttDKhCyCRTYHHYmW92W7Lo7YSsqBba7SBxsjqS3PJOIISI5GOQVZEYwW5CbtC7OlVponJCsUlDVhj4$ 

The update also includes a 2003 reference (new Fig. 1) regarding the
oscillating selection as a result of sexual conflicts.

It also includes a new Fig. 9 showing Holy Agatha of Catania as a
historical example (250 CE) of male violence against the female breast
as a sex symbol.

The usual ideas that the bosom fascinates men because it promises enough 
milk
to feed a baby, or because the milk was so tasty during breastfeeding,
had been put forward by several previous authors and are addressed by
recent review papers referred to in my text. Those "explanations" are
not convincing to me, and there are various counter arguments. In my paper
I have not repeated all this matter found in numerous other papers, such as
this one: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.1093/asjof/ojae095__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!R_H-GOVGqdKtkttDKhCyCRTYHHYmW92W7Lo7YSsqBba7SBxsjqS3PJOIISI5GOQVZEYwW5CbtC7OlVponJCsAzRKUkY$ 

Rather, I argue that the sex symbol "bosom" emerged by a ritualisation
transition from its former use activity, namely, as a contraceptive
against male mating agression, which resulted from the concealed female
oestrus which resulted from early weaning and untimely pregancy as a result
of evolving bipedal gait. It this causal chain, there is no role
for a remembered suckling's taste of milk, nor for exotic imaginations
appearing in men's visions. Instead, it is the hard struggle for survival
that urged hominins to implement new ways of reproduction behaviour.

So, the main turnover in my paper is that the adipose breast was first and
the male interest in it emerged later, while established literature claims
that it was sexual interest of males in breasts that caused those to grow in
women.

I am happy that Pedro with BioSystems published my paper with minor 
revision.
In fact it had been rejected by several journals before with rather strange
or emotional arguments, such as "This paper represents the worst of 
pseudoscience.
... It is full of sexist stereotypes of behavior that do not make 
evolutionary sense." etc

Male and female readers of this paper may ask themselves how they behave in
romantic situations with the other sex, and why they like and do it this 
way.

To me, the published model has offered a potential explanation for the 
unique
human way of sexual behaviour. I hope it will find its way into a wider 
audience
for discussing the scientific basis of our human mysteries and taboos of 
sex.

Thank you, Pedro, and best wishes for further progress with anthropogenesis.

Rainer

PS: I regret that BioSystems does not report access metrics on its web page.

Am 18.03.2026 um 22:07 schrieb Pedro C. Marijuán:
> Dear All,
>
> We have not very active in last weeks regarding the session on 
> Emergence of Human Sexual Behaviour by Rainer Feistel.
>
> My impression is that the theme has so dominant aspects in our 
> societies (and obviously in human individuals on a personal basis), 
> that the evolutionary discussion does not easily trespass the 
> stumbling blocks of culture, ideology, and generalized prejudice. I 
> cannot help but remind the soliloquy in the  "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad 
> World" movie:   "And this positively infantile preoccupation with 
> bosoms. In all time in this wretched Godforsaken country, the one 
> thing that has appalled me most of all this this preposterous 
> preoccupation with bosoms. Don't you realize they have become the 
> dominant theme in American culture: in literature, advertising and all 
> fields of entertainment and everything. I'll wager you anything you 
> like that if American women stopped wearing brassieres, your whole 
> national economy would collapse overnight." Change a little bit the 
> wording and that's what I mean.
>
> Anyhow, Rainer, we have learned a lot --at least me personally-- from 
> your evolutionary hypothesis on the peculiarities of human sexuality.
>
> Thanks a lot for your contribution. You are welcome to enter some 
> concluding comments of the session if you see it pertinent.
>
> Best regards--Pedro
>
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Dr. rer. nat. habil. Rainer Feistel
Physicist (emeritus)
PS Gustav Hertz Prize, Berlin 1981
CITAC Best Paper Award, Paris 2011
IAPWS Honorary Fellow, London 2013
BIPM Metrologia Highlight Articles, Paris 2016
EGU Fridtjof Nansen Medal, Vienna 2018
LS Daniel Ernst Jablonski Medal, Berlin 2021
IAPWS Gibbs Award, Boulder, Co., 2024