[Fis] The Information definition as it is in the General Information Theory (GIT)

Krassimir Markov itheaiss at gmail.com
Mon Mar 10 13:00:14 CET 2025


Dear Marcus,
Thank you for your words and your willingness to develop our ideas
together. I like to work with colleagues when I have free time for this.
Such collaboration usually gives good results. As an example, I can cite my
collaboration with Mark Burgin, which led to the creation of a dual theory
of mine, which naturally complements it by presenting a model that further
develops the Theory of Reflections.
Unfortunately, this year is too busy for me to be able to devote time to
in-depth collaboration. There are many scientific events coming up, at the
center of which I am also, and this prevents me from concentrating on
systematic collaboration.

Dear Howard,
You introduced your mental model by saying:
“if information and mental models are configurations of material
things--neurons--then the configurations are yet another example of the
material power of immaterial things.
The configurations are immaterial."

There are two approaches to mental models - religious and scientific.
In the first, it is enough to believe in order to perceive them, while in
the second, experimental data are needed. I adhere to the scientific
approach.

If you do not have such data and/or cannot give at least an example showing
the immateriality of configurations, then your model belongs to religion.
The colleagues on the FIS list know my principle well -
"Belief should be believed, not discussed!"
Therefore, if you do not have scientific arguments, we will have to stop
there.

With respect,
Krassimir

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На пн, 10.03.2025 г. в 1:57 Howard Bloom <howlbloom at aol.com> написа:

> interesting thoughts, krassimir.  well worth pondering.
>
> one note.  if information and mental models are configurations of material
> things--neurons--then the configurations are yet another example of the
> material power of immaterial things.
>
>  The configurations are immaterial.
>
> with warmth and oomph--howard
>
>
> On Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 05:04:16 AM EDT, Krassimir Markov <
> itheaiss at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Howard,
>
> You wrote:
>
> "... but I’m curious to hear your reason for not using information as the
> term for all immaterial mysteries."
>
> Here is my answer:
>
>
>
> *The Information definition as it is in the General Information Theory
> (GIT)*
>
> We perceive (reflect) *reality* through our sensors, after which *reflections
> (data) *pass through the sensory memory and enter the temporary memory of
> the brain. It is here that our consciousness has already prepared a
> corresponding mental model loaded from long term memory (Information
> Expectation,” IE”), through which we will recognize the data. Only after data
> is recognized and connected to the information expectation, the data,
> together with the part of the IE with which it is connected (*meaning*!),
> are perceived as information. That is, only at this stage, we will have mental
> model, which is “information”. In other words, *information is* *data
> with meaning*. The information may be stored in the long term memory as a
> new mental model (usually called “*knowledge*”).
>
> If data is equal to the IE no new mental model is created (it is already
> “known” data).
>
> If there is no mental model to be used for IE, the consciousness tries to
> create a new one (a new concept!) or remember the data as unrecognized, for
> example, as is the case with UFOs.
>
> The same process may exist based on internal (self-) reflection. I.e. some
> mental models may be compared to another and as result a new mental model (*subjective
> information*, *a new idea*!) may be created and stored in the long term (
> *semantic*, “knowledge”) memory of the brain.
>
> Finally, the immaterial is just a subjective mental model(s). From the
> empty Universe through the scientific constructions, like the mathematical
> “ideal” objects, up to the God, all are mental models in the consciousness,
> which may be externalized using corresponding languages.
>
> The mental models are absolutely material, they are neurons’
> configurations and when the brain dies they are destroyed.
>
>
>
> With respect,
>
> Krassimir
>
>
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