<div dir="ltr"><font size="4">Dear Marcus,<br>Thank you for your words and your willingness to develop our ideas together. I like to work with colleagues when I have free time for this. Such collaboration usually gives good results. As an example, I can cite my collaboration with Mark Burgin, which led to the creation of a dual theory of mine, which naturally complements it by presenting a model that further develops the Theory of Reflections.<br>Unfortunately, this year is too busy for me to be able to devote time to in-depth collaboration. There are many scientific events coming up, at the center of which I am also, and this prevents me from concentrating on systematic collaboration.<br><br>Dear Howard,<br>You introduced your mental model by saying:<br>“if information and mental models are configurations of material things--neurons--then the configurations are yet another example of the material power of immaterial things.<br>The configurations are immaterial."</font><div><font size="4"><br>There are two approaches to mental models - religious and scientific. </font></div><div><font size="4">In the first, it is enough to believe in order to perceive them, while in the second, experimental data are needed. I adhere to the scientific approach.</font></div><div><font size="4"><br>If you do not have such data and/or cannot give at least an example showing the immateriality of configurations, then your model belongs to religion.<br>The colleagues on the FIS list know my principle well -<br>"Belief should be believed, not discussed!"<br>Therefore, if you do not have scientific arguments, we will have to stop there.<br><br>With respect,<br>Krassimir</font><br></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br><table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de"><tr><td style="width:55px;padding-top:13px"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!WT2Fc9fFrRKjIKUeuxHJKfd0b2ywOHuYv3vtXnqgYKu1mEMFJPrqgddwC861WVXdn1a5Ync0Hbv7dFyl-cs$" target="_blank"><img src="https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif" alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;"></a></td><td style="width:470px;padding-top:12px;color:#41424e;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Virus-free.<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!WT2Fc9fFrRKjIKUeuxHJKfd0b2ywOHuYv3vtXnqgYKu1mEMFJPrqgddwC861WVXdn1a5Ync0Hbv7dFyl-cs$" target="_blank" style="color:#4453ea">www.avast.com</a></td></tr></table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">На пн, 10.03.2025 г. в 1:57 Howard Bloom <<a href="mailto:howlbloom@aol.com">howlbloom@aol.com</a>> написа:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:24px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">interesting thoughts, krassimir. well worth pondering.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">one note. if information and mental models are configurations of material things--neurons--then the configurations are yet another example of the material power of immaterial things.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black;letter-spacing:-0.25pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> The configurations are immaterial.</span></span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black;letter-spacing:-0.25pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black;letter-spacing:-0.25pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span>with warmth and oomph--howard</span><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 05:04:16 AM EDT, Krassimir Markov <<a href="mailto:itheaiss@gmail.com" target="_blank">itheaiss@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">Dear Howard,</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">You wrote:</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">"... but I’m curious to hear your reason for not using information
as the term for all immaterial mysteries."</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">Here is my answer:</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%"> </span><span></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">The Information definition as it is in the General
Information Theory (GIT)</span></b><span></span></p><p><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">We
perceive </span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">(reflect) <b>reality</b></span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%"> through our sensors, after which </span><b><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">reflections
(data) </span></b><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">pass
through the sensory memory and enter the temporary memory of the brain. It is
here that our consciousness has already prepared a corresponding mental model</span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%"> loaded
from long term memory (Information Expectation,” IE”)</span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">, through which we will recognize the
data. Only after </span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">data is</span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%"> recognized and connected to </span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">the
information expectation</span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">, the data, together with the part of the </span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">IE </span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">with which </span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">it is</span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%"> connected (<b>meaning</b>!),
are perceived as information. That is, only at this stage</span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">, </span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">we will have </span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">mental model,
which is </span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">“information”.</span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%"> In
other words, <b>information is</b> <b>data with meaning</b>. The
information may be stored in the long term memory as a new mental model
(usually called “<b>knowledge</b>”).</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">If data is equal to the IE no new mental model is created (it is already
“known” data).</span><span></span></p><p><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">If
there is no mental model to </span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">be </span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">use</span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">d</span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%"> for IE, the consciousness tries
to create a new one (a new concept!) or remember the data as unrecognized, for
example, as is the case with UFOs.</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">The same process may exist based on internal (self-) reflection. I.e.
some mental models may be compared to another and as result a new mental model
(<b>subjective information</b>, <b>a new idea</b>!) may be created and
stored in the long term (<b>semantic</b>, “knowledge”) memory of the brain.</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">Finally, the immaterial is just a subjective mental model(s). From the
empty Universe through the scientific constructions, like the mathematical
“ideal” objects, up to the God, all are mental models in the </span><span lang="BG" style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">consciousness</span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">, which may
be externalized using corresponding languages.</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">The mental models are absolutely material, they are neurons’
configurations and when the brain dies they are destroyed. </span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%"> </span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">With respect,</span><span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:115%">Krassimir</span><span></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:normal">
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