[Fis] 20% of most important Informatics
Prof. Dr. Thomas Görnitz
goernitz at em.uni-frankfurt.de
Wed Jun 25 12:30:38 CEST 2025
Dear Fis,
Since 1974, international conferences have been held at two-year
intervals on Lake Starnberg, dealing with the physical and
philosophical implications of the role of the concept of information
for understanding quantum reality, specifically on Weizsäcker's
concept of the “Ur-Theory”, quantized binary alternatives.
In 1980, Weizsäcker also invited John A. Wheeler (1911- 2008) to the
fourth conference on the Ur theory and its consequences. Wheeler spoke
there (in reference to Alice in Wonderland?) about:
Wheeler JA (1981) "The elementary quantum act as higgledypiggledy
building mechanism". In: Castell et al (ed.)
Quantum theory and the structures of time and space. Hanser, Munich, pp. 27-30
Ten years later, in 1990, Wheeler gave a lecture entitled "It from
Bit", which is still very popular today. However, there was no
reference to the existing research of Weizsäcker and his coworkers.
all good wishes
Thomas
Quoting Francesco Rizzo <13francesco.rizzo at gmail.com>:
> Dear Colleagues, more or less young,
>
> - matter, energy and information are the inputs and outputs, also according
> to John Wheeler reducible to the sole law of information, of my process of
> trans-in-form-ation;
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> - meaning, signifier and physical referent constitute the triangle of de
> Saussure;
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> - these two cognitive-existential moments are fundamental for my New
> Economy starting from Value and Evaluations (FrancoAngeli, Milan, 1999).
>
> Kind regards.
>
> Francesco Rizzo
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> Cari Colleghi, più o meno giovani,
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> - materia, energia e informazione sono gli *input* e gli *output*, anche
> secondo John Wheeler riducibili all'unica legge dell'informazione, del mio
> processo di tras-in-form-azione;
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> - significato, significante e referente fisico costituiscono il triangolo
> di de Saussure;
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> - questi due momenti cognitivo-esistenziali, sono fondamentali per la
> mia *Nuova
> economia* a partire da *Valore e valutazioni* (FrancoAngeli, Milano, 1999).
>
> Saluti cordiali.
>
> Francesco Rizzo
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> Il giorno mer 25 giu 2025 alle ore 10:00 Marcus Abundis <55mrcs at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>> Jason and Jerry,
>>
>> I too find Peirce hard to use for many reasons, but I can easily give a
>> nod to 'work done'.
>> <Opinions are cheap - our academic friends are having too many opinions.>
>> I mostly agree, but if one is not *themselves* confronting the 'heavy
>> lifting' needed to master a topic . . . I tend to ignore their words as
>> they typically do not think deeply about the matter and ultimately add
>> little real value to the topic's study.
>>
>> Jerry – yes to polysemic and poly-symbolic roles, but no(?) to
>> paraconsistent logic. Here I invoke another 'ancient name' of Korzybski who
>> pointed to 'confused levels of abstraction'. Korzybski's humanist
>> (psychological) focus stopped him from formalizing levels of abstraction
>> (beyond paraconsistent logic?), but THAT detail is part of the 'heavy
>> lifting' that remains to be done. Moreover, I see this as important not
>> only to life sciences but also to material sciences.
>> <Any thoughts from the perspective of well-formed formula?>
>> I am unsure if you mean this as a 'dig' (a weakness in my own work) or if
>> you mean this as a genuine question. I can easily say the furthest I have
>> come to a 'well-formed formula' is to name a recurring . . . 2-3-2-3 . . .
>> (dualist-triune) pattern for the entire span of 'information' – what I
>> otherwise call a 'structural informatic backbone' for the cosmos. But going
>> FURTHER requires even more heavy lifting. But for now, I am still
>> struggling with simply getting 'buy-in' from AI (and *this* FIS/IS4SI)
>> communities for the initial concept. There is no point in pressing forward,
>> if I continually fail at rearguard actions. That said, naming a
>> dualist-triune foundation seems a key step (I think) in moving to
>> 'well-formed formulae'. Also, I see a dualist-triune view interestingly
>> tied to all prior dualist views (from Anaxagoras's 'mind and matter',
>> onward) AND tied to Peirce's three-part view.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
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