[Fis] Comments on Questions from Katherine Peil

Louis Kauffman loukau at gmail.com
Sun May 12 09:42:30 CEST 2024


Dear Alex,
I agree with you. It is possible to design structures supported by digital systems that have their structure maintained by response to perturbations.
There are very elementary cellular automata that are like that.
Then we might have things like large language models that simulate biological systems with instability correction that verges on “experience” and “emotions”.
Such systems could report on their own internal states, as we do. But present systems are not founded in this way.
Best,
Lou

> On May 12, 2024, at 2:03 AM, Alex Hankey <alexhankey at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> RE: 
> 1. My take on the self-regulatory function emotion suggests that the dual  “purposes” of self-preservation and adaptive self-development (both mediated by Negative ~ Positive categories of emotions) are rooted in ancient information signaling and memory systems.
> 2. Is any subjectivity involved in information processing? At what point is it purely mechanical?
> 3. And once again, where does the semantic value enter the picture? Not-self pathogens? Too hot, too cold? 
> 
> None of these questions are dealt with in terms of digital information in organisms of any kind. Organisms treat them in terms of 'Experience Information', which is entirely different, being based on naturally occurring Instabilities in organism response systems, which cannot support Digital Information (for obvious reasons), and which are present to enable the organism to satisfy the requirements of Fractal Physiology. 
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