<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Alex,<div class="">I agree with you. It is possible to design structures supported by digital systems that have their structure maintained by response to perturbations.</div><div class="">There are very elementary cellular automata that are like that.</div><div class="">Then we might have things like large language models that simulate biological systems with instability correction that verges on “experience” and “emotions”.</div><div class="">Such systems could report on their own internal states, as we do. But present systems are not founded in this way.</div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Lou<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 12, 2024, at 2:03 AM, Alex Hankey <<a href="mailto:alexhankey@gmail.com" class="">alexhankey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394">RE: </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394">1. My take on the self-regulatory function emotion suggests that the
dual “purposes” of self-preservation and adaptive self-development
(both mediated by Negative ~ Positive categories of emotions) are rooted
in <i class="">ancient information signaling and
memory systems</i>.<div class="">2. Is any
subjectivity involved in information processing? At what point is it
purely mechanical?</div>
<div class="">3. And once again, where does the <i class="">semantic value</i> enter the picture?
Not-self pathogens? Too
hot, too cold? <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">None of these questions are dealt with in terms of digital information in organisms of any kind. Organisms treat them in terms of 'Experience Information', which is entirely different, being based on naturally occurring Instabilities in organism response systems, which cannot support Digital Information (for obvious reasons), and which are present to enable the organism to satisfy the requirements of Fractal Physiology. <br class=""></div>
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