[Fis] Concluding Comments?

[Alex Hankey]

Dear Plamen,
Your references amount to the promotion of AI terrorism,
in a manner similar to that visited on the school population
held in control by the Chinese Communist Party.
I think that even Chairman Mao would turn in his grave!
All good wishes to all,
Alex


On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 15:06, Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov <
plamen.l.simeonov at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Well said. Thank you, Catlos.
>
> I have one last question:
>
> What do you and the FIS colleagues think of this kind of outlook for
> evolutionary formali(n)sation?
>
> 1.
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://news.mit.edu/2019/training-artificial-intelligence-brain-scan-0619__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Sn2UMpjFBPiSuDZnkyyYL5AG7aSdvzWgeEFQF6oNfjL8UGmZoQAfR3s3AnbF-homYmYkuayTpvhXhQw3xC2sJA$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://news.mit.edu/2019/training-artificial-intelligence-brain-scan-0619__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SsU3-gNIFwLZgKiiAaKmhhb1-cQGJaorxvmbNO3QLa-ar2RGlYGvCeFuJBLc7vMzwA0hIWAxk5GeRtvH74S8ZtvCj4Rp$>
>
> 2.
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/05/01/1072471/brain-scans-can-translate-a-persons-thoughts-into-words/__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Sn2UMpjFBPiSuDZnkyyYL5AG7aSdvzWgeEFQF6oNfjL8UGmZoQAfR3s3AnbF-homYmYkuayTpvhXhQyorQ2jGw$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/05/01/1072471/brain-scans-can-translate-a-persons-thoughts-into-words/__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SsU3-gNIFwLZgKiiAaKmhhb1-cQGJaorxvmbNO3QLa-ar2RGlYGvCeFuJBLc7vMzwA0hIWAxk5GeRtvH74S8ZtEGJZZW$>
>
> 3.
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.weforum.org/videos/davos-am23-ready-for-brain-transparency-english/__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Sn2UMpjFBPiSuDZnkyyYL5AG7aSdvzWgeEFQF6oNfjL8UGmZoQAfR3s3AnbF-homYmYkuayTpvhXhQwhr1GmgA$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.weforum.org/videos/davos-am23-ready-for-brain-transparency-english/__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!SsU3-gNIFwLZgKiiAaKmhhb1-cQGJaorxvmbNO3QLa-ar2RGlYGvCeFuJBLc7vMzwA0hIWAxk5GeRtvH74S8ZtSFL0yp$>
>
>
> All the best!
>
> Plamen
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 7:06 PM Carlos Gershenson <cgershen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Pedro and colleagues,
>>
>> Thank you very much for the lively discussions and commentaries. I have
>> learned a lot.
>>
>> I would not say these are concluding comments, as all questions remain
>> open, but perhaps "summarizing comments".
>>
>> I think that efforts to “fix” formal systems to go beyond or around their
>> limits (*à la* Hilbert’s program) are doomed to fail. We still need to
>> accept them or find a better way of dealing with them. Perhaps an
>> alternative would be not to see them as something negative, but as
>> something we can exploit/benefit from. I mean, just hypothetically imagine
>> if mathematics was consistent, complete, and decidable. Yes, we would have
>> absolute truths, we could have certainty. But would we have creativity?
>> Innovation? Serendipity? In other words, we could eliminate many problems
>> we suffer from, but perhaps we would have many more. Even worse, perhaps we
>> would not even be here. For how could human culture evolve in a consistent,
>> complete, and decidable world?
>>
>> Of course, this does not mean that we should abandon science or formal
>> methods. But by acknowledging their limits, we should be able to use
>> different narratives to explore beyond them.
>>
>> Best (albeit incomplete) wishes,
>>
>> Carlos
>>
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