[Fis] New Year Lecture - Stuart Kauffman

[joe.brenner at bluewin.ch]

Dear Stuart (if I may), Pedro and Plamen,
Happy New Year and best wishes for 2024 to All! As
Pedro and Plamen may recall, I have been “at home in Stuart’s Universe” for some
time. His article, however, brings clearly into focus the issues to be resolved
in science and philosophy, including logic.
As you may not recall, however, I have been arguing
for all this time, contra vents et marées, in favor of some very
specific additions. Among other things these, have their ground in the very
much neglected Buddhist insights into the relational structure of reality (co-dependence
or co-instantiation) in the work of both Nagarjuna (2nd - 3rd
Centuries C.E.) and Yamauchi Tokuryu (19th -20th Centuries).
To be as brief as possible here, Stuart’s article
refers to or implies needed changes in the following areas:
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Free will as necessary for individual
and collective responsibility;
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Total separability in the part-whole relation:
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Inapplicability of standard set theory;
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Dynamic implications of the Axiom of Choice;
(I have sent my philosophical-logical interpretation of this Axiom to some 45
people without  an answer, not that I was
wrong or ignorant – nothing.)
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Non-algorithmic, but regular features
of the real world;
I look forward very much to a dialogue on these and
other issues,
Cheers, as far as possible,
Joseph----Message d'origine----
De : stukauffman at gmail.com
Date : 04/01/2024 - 23:54 (E)
À : fis at listas.unizar.es
Cc : pedroc.marijuan at gmail.com, plamen at simeio.org
Objet : [Fis] New Year Lecture - Stuart Kauffman /Pedro and Plamen is this what you need? stu
 
Hello to All,
  
 
  
    
  
 
I am truly grateful to have this opportunity to discuss with you the recent Stuart Kauffman and Andrea Roli paper, “A Third Transition In Science?” J. Roy. Soc. Interface, 4/ 14 2023.  I attach a link below. It’s eventual publication in a fine journal after almost two years has its own wry history. 
  
 
  
    
  
 
Andrea and I think we are correct, but we may be wrong. More, I only slightly begin to understand what our results, if correct, mean. 
  
 
  
    
  
 
I had thought that the First Transition in science was Newton’s invention of Classical Physics in 1689 A.D. And I thought the Second Transition was the reluctant discovery of quantum mechanics between 1900 and 1927 A.D.
  
 
  
    
  
 
I begin to suspect I was wrong.  The First Transition in science was in 1299A.D. when the first mechanical clock was invented and installed at the Wallingford Abby. It was installed because the monks were often late for prayers. Within less than a century, Europe was dotted by chuch towers with ever - more impressive mechanical clocks. Modern people in 1379 A.D. must have begun to wonder if the World itself was some amazing clockwork machine. Then Copernicus, 1543 A.D., then Kepler, Galileo and Newton.  
  
 
  
    
  
 
This, then, was the Second Transition in Science. Yes, yes, yes!  The World is a vast clockwork machine. No room for God’s miracles – the Deistic God of the Enlightenment. No room for mind – Descartes lost his Res cogitans to Newton’s Res extensa. No Free Will.
  
 
  
    
  
 
With Planck, Heisenberg, and Schrodinger cam a loss of determinism, but still within the Newtonian Paradigm. And no mind and no responsible Free Will. 
  
 
  
    
  
 
If Andrea and I are correct, this Third Transition demonstrates for the first time since 1299AD, 725 years later, that the evolving biosphere is not a clockwork machines. Evolving life is not a machine at all. 
  
 
  
    
  
 
Are the two of us correct? If so, what does this Third Transition portend?  These  issues now lies before us.
  
 
  
    
  
 
Merci a tous,
  
 
 
Stu Kauffman
 
 
A Third Transition in Science? Link 
  
 
  
    
  
 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsfs.2022.0063__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!RIj6CuDgT98U3fjHx6CUTBWOTz743i2iQ_glWh_8tKQ00IVjtopmhRj3ZWOg2yVgsUGKMWfLY4X51YrE3sLjL1NDDAI$  
  
 
  
    
  
 
  
    
  
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