<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:107%;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Dear Stuart (if I may), Pedro and Plamen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:107%;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Happy New Year and best wishes for 2024 to All! As
Pedro and Plamen may recall, I have been “at home in Stuart’s Universe” for some
time. His article, however, brings clearly into focus the issues to be resolved
in science and philosophy, including logic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:107%;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US">As you may not recall, however, I have been arguing
for all this time, <i>contra vents et marées</i>, in favor of some very
specific additions. Among other things these, have their ground in the very
much neglected Buddhist insights into the relational structure of reality (co-dependence
or co-instantiation) in the work of both Nagarjuna (2<sup>nd</sup> - 3<sup>rd</sup>
Centuries C.E.) and Yamauchi Tokuryu (19th -20<sup>th</sup> Centuries).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:107%;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US">To be as brief as possible here, Stuart’s article
refers to or implies needed changes in the following areas:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;
line-height:107%;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Free will as necessary for individual
and collective responsibility;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;
line-height:107%;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Total separability in the part-whole relation:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;
line-height:107%;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Inapplicability of standard set theory;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;
line-height:107%;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Dynamic implications of the Axiom of Choice;
(I have sent my philosophical-logical interpretation of this Axiom to some 45
people without an answer, not that I was
wrong or ignorant – nothing.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;
line-height:107%;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Non-algorithmic, but regular features
of the real world;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:107%;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US">I look forward very much to a dialogue on these and
other issues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:107%;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Cheers, as far as possible,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Joseph<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left:15px;">----Message d'origine----<br>De : stukauffman@gmail.com<br>Date : 04/01/2024 - 23:54 (E)<br>À : fis@listas.unizar.es<br>Cc : pedroc.marijuan@gmail.com, plamen@simeio.org<br>Objet : [Fis] New Year Lecture - Stuart Kauffman /Pedro and Plamen is this what you need? stu<br><br><blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(0,0,0);">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.0in;font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;">I am truly grateful to have this opportunity to discuss with you the recent Stuart Kauffman and Andrea Roli paper, “A Third Transition In Science?” J. Roy. Soc. Interface, 4/ 14 2023. I attach a link below. It’s eventual publication in a fine journal after almost two years has its own wry history.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.0in;font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;">Andrea and I think we are correct, but we may be wrong. More, I only slightly begin to understand what our results, if correct, mean.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.0in;font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;">I had thought that the First Transition in science was Newton’s invention of Classical Physics in 1689 A.D. And I thought the Second Transition was the reluctant discovery of quantum mechanics between 1900 and 1927 A.D.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.0in;font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;">I begin to suspect I was wrong. The First Transition in science was in 1299A.D. when the first mechanical clock was invented and installed at the Wallingford Abby. It was installed because the monks were often late for prayers. Within less than a century, Europe was dotted by chuch towers with ever - more impressive mechanical clocks. Modern people in 1379 A.D. must have begun to wonder if the World itself was some amazing clockwork machine. Then Copernicus, 1543 A.D., then Kepler, Galileo and Newton.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.0in;font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;">This, then, was the Second Transition in Science. Yes, yes, yes! The World <i>is</i> a vast clockwork machine. No room for God’s miracles – the Deistic God of the Enlightenment. No room for mind – Descartes lost his Res cogitans to Newton’s Res extensa. No Free Will.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.0in;font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;">With Planck, Heisenberg, and Schrodinger cam a loss of determinism, but still within the Newtonian Paradigm. And no mind and no responsible Free Will.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.0in;font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;">If Andrea and I are correct, this Third Transition demonstrates for the first time since 1299AD, 725 years later, that the evolving biosphere is not a clockwork machines. Evolving life is not a machine at all.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.0in;font-family: Calibri , sans-serif;">Are the two of us correct? If so, what does this Third Transition portend? These issues now lies before us.
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