[Fis] "express matter and energy in terms of information"--Digital Cheese & 'Erroneous Concepts',

[Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov]

All this has been said and tried before:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nature.com/articles/nphys1821__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!VOaa7MBE6IDBF7cF8DR_is_BxJNvd5CqK_QCA68qeleBrKKqhNdWsbKli9icKIDFjIhmHcits6f6n5R2A9Ntowqu2Z-K$ 
There are no levels, entities and spaces/times: just coming and going
illusions conveyed by feelings transfusing into and reflecting/refracting
each other like the light (gamma quanta being the two and the one
simultaneously) to manifest appearances, ergo illusions, etc. ad infinitum
...  :-)


On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:42 PM Karl Javorszky <karl.javorszky at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Gordana writes:
>
> This seems to be the level one can hardly go beyond
>
> For me, it's not clear which level is "this" after an enumeration of four
> levels.
>
> Whichever level is meant, there is the level of numerical facts which is
> not included in the enumeration.
>
> Let me point out (again) that the symbols were developed for the reason of
> being able to distinguish fact and phantasy.
>
> It is best to stick with the facts. The facts are that
> 1. Human neurology treats relationships that indicate a belonging-to
> differently to relationships that indicate a not-belonging-to
> 2. The collection of relations and the objects that incorporate the
> relations are together the Whole
> 3. What we call "objects" and "relations" are but different degrees of
> certainty
> 4. There is a cross-reference in the symbol set between the realized
> (certain) and the potential
> 5. Two different realizations of belonging together are offered as
> definition of the concept and extent of the Unit of information.
>
> We are not lost at all, we have not lost our way in the dark. Presently,
> the learned friends have no orientation and believe themselves to have run
> out of concepts and good ideas.
>
> After a refreshing sleep and the honest insight that Rhetoric brings you
> only so far, if you don't have the numbers on your side, the learned
> friends will turn again to the basis and ask what the numbers say.
>
> There is no way around being reasonable if one wants to understand Nature.
>
> Repent and reorder 12 books on your table from author - title into title -
> author. Watch the cycles and share their numbers with the other learned
> friends.
>
> Time for a resurgence. If you want to understand the order concept nature
> uses, go and sort. Find out what it means to be ordered and predictable,
> specifically in 3 turns, with 1 of 4 on the sequenced places of the turns.
>
> After the lamenting of not going anywhere in the current cul-de-sac will
> have finished, the idea will return that Nature in her grace does regulate
> business in the form of 3 sequenced turns, each turn having 1 of 4 logical
> tokens. Where does that pattern appear, again? Not when sorting a+b=c for
> the first 16 of a, b - or was not that so? Happy days and weeks to you
> relaxing and roburating the intellect before you get to using it again.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
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