[Fis] The Tao of numbers

[joe.brenner at bluewin.ch]

Dear Karl,
The Tao is also about what is off-center and off-balance, bad and impractical algorithms. Otherwise I agree with your second brief paragraph.
As for the blob, the key thing for me is that it can change between its "forms and appearances" 
Cheers,
Joseph
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De : karl.javorszky at gmail.com
Date : 29/04/2024 - 14:31 (E)
À : fis at listas.unizar.es
Objet : [Fis] The Tao of numbers
 
  
Dear Fis, 
  
 
  
The connection between Tao and the algorithms that allow modeling biology appears to me the concept of “Mass und Mitte” (of course I don’t know the original Chinese, in English the phrase goes probably like ‘balance and center’). [Measure and middle]
  
The general idea of being a part of a cooperating whole is what makes Asian philosophy in my eyes deeper and more useful than the monotheistic individuality evolved further West.
  
In psychology, the necessity to be bonded, and the ranges of not enough and too much of being integrated in other people’s lives, are well known. For a psychologist, it is not necessary to translate the values of bonds and bondages (support, empathy, surveillance, subversion, etc.) into numbers of extents and durations, because he does not feel himself computer enough to make use of many small details. If the measures of the interdependencies are near a usual range, the quasi-stable state is assumed to be non-disturbing. We meet the ideas of balance and center what Tao is (as far as I understand) about.
  
As to information as such: We have the imagination of a mysterious blob of something that can have many forms and appearances. Shannon slices it into cells of a matrix. Tao ponders how the harmony of parts relative to the whole and each other is the most natural. 
  
Enter late 20th and early 21st century. We have computers and printers. There are people mass-producing plans and procedures for the methodology and data base structures for socio-economical surveys about anything than is of interest to a state or private customer. 
  
Segmenting the population under aspects of socio-economic questions, if done repeatedly, leads one to asking, how the ideal report of the most exhaustive survey would look like. The whole is segmented, the detail is, how finely differentiated the parts are, in comparison to each other and relative to the overall whole. 
  
Trying to build an app for the smartphone, in which user can structure his campaign of gathering information, one evolves the ideal universe which can be surveyed (sorted and ordered) ad libitum. Lacking modesty, one calls the simplified archetype of any surveyed population the etalon collection. Keeping with modesty, one limits the investigation to a,b and not a, b, c, d, …k being parts of a whole, and the size of the etalon collection to 136, which means that there can be 16 variants of whatever property is being surveyed. Apparently, in everyday life, we meet mixtures of properties, but like in human vision all colors are built up from the basic 3, all properties of individuals and assemblies will build up from the original twice 16. 
  
We have now the theatre, the stage, and the actors. We need a plot. The plot is the eternal conflict caused by periodic changes (of which examples are the surveys the customers paid for, aperiodically). 
  
While there are no conflicts as long as the system is idle, conflicts are inevitable as soon as the reorders inflict conflicting requirements on the individuals relating to where the correct place of this individual is, given that such and such orders are now the case. The intrigues of the screenplay are the conflicts that come from concurrent periodic changes.
  
To start and maintain the spectacle, we need to have something the actors are fighting for in an endless struggle. We have to invent the golden fleece, Paris’ apple, possession of the production factors, wealth of nations, whatever. That whatever needs to be of interval nature. The names of the actors are used so far as nominal (distinguishing) and ordinal (sequencing) symbols. The same symbols translate easily in interval (grouping) symbols, which give the coming melee (blob) of what will happen a skeleton, made up of units spaced in equal intervals, appearing us as two 3D spaces plus 2 planes, creating a background of empty distances.
  
The Peano unit of a threesome “ predecessor – current – successor “ has an ambiguity, depending on whether we use the relations on ordinal or on interval scales. The successor on N is +1. The successor on an ordinal scale can be any value (there is no first or last element in a cycle as per definition: whether Nature uses some properties of cycles to determine, which is the first element, is something the wet people will decide). This value is what we need.
  
A periodic change is a logistical maneuver. It is not a re-enumeration on this stage, but geometric place changes of individual elements. After a reorder from Q into W has been completed, ∑a + ∑b have been transported from here to there. These are cohort constants. In the etalon Cohort 16, ∑a + ∑b = 816 + 1496 =2312.
  
We re-distribute 2312 during a reorder. Each reorder re-distributes 2312. The etalon collection has 72*71 catalogized reorders. The total logistics of the adventure can be no more than 72*71*2312 = 11.818.944, and this is impossible to reach, for logical reasons. 
  
The numeric tabulation of the static lien values of each element regarding the cycle K it is contained in during reorder X is easy, as the portion for the cycle is 2312/proportion of cycle K, and the portion for the individual element is ∑K/no of elements in the cycle. (There is the possibility to contrast the division per head against per weight.) 
  
The Tao sense behind the crediting of the total into proportionate parts (whether per member or per carry) is that we have established a measure relative to a middle. The lien amount an individual element receives may be different to element’s own name-value. The difference between the element as such and the element as a member of a group is a matrix of numeric extents, which allows nearing the idea of a basic (indexed) constant for cohesion. The basic measure of how far away from the most usual has a geometric and a material-related reading. 
  
As to the repeated assertions that building models by rotating additions may be a nice hobby, but it remains a Glasperlenspiel without any relevance to reality:
  
The statistics about life expectancy, violent deaths, proportion of population incarcerated, wealth distribution, etc. are an intellectual exercise involving large data sets. The numbers depict assumed interdependences in reality and/or help unveiling the underlying rational explanations for what are possible causes for crises in reality and by which methods one could hope to mitigate them the best. 
  
The numbers we produce, by weighting down the poor logical primitives with all the linkage tools they need if they are subject to whichever periodic change, are similarly nothing but numbers. One can read out of ordering the etalon collection this and that way that there are certainties of many kinds, types, and extents. The system is by its setup cursed with a small proportion of contradictions within itself and tries yet to trod along as long as creative interpretations of laws of accounting permit. Biology nestles in the cracks of inner contradictions of the Sumerian system. 
  
As to the idea of explaining in more detail the primitive cartography, let me answer with a question. Do the learned friends think that there is a commercial value in good and practical algorithms? If so, how does one start a startup? We have the garage and the good idea and the workmanship to produce if not prototypes so laboratory models. Are any of the learned friends well versed in the ways of the profane and would like to take part in developing the idea into jobs and wealth?
  
Well, this may come near dear Pedro’s delineations about what to discuss here. A question, whether the learned friends have knowledge of an EU initiative to support research if it is cooperating across at least six member states’ institutions, may be within the impeccable culture Pedro has established.
  
Karl
  
 
 
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