[Fis] World Logic Day & Entropy as Degrees of Freedom

Marcus Abundis 55mrcs at gmail.com
Thu Jan 5 13:47:44 CET 2023


Hey Pedro – thanks for your note! . . . and Happy New Year to you!
Yes, I know about this use of degrees of freedom (DoF) in framing
entropy, often in chemistry.
But I have not seen this DoF concept extended very far (perhaps I am
deficient in my reading?).
For example, in seeking a unified approach to 'thermodynamic entropy' and
'signal entropy' (nomillay opposed views – 'disorder' vs. 'a specific'
order), I thought variably mapped DoF might be a good way to cover that
vast 'logical gap'.
THAT is why I put my question to you, thinking/hoping you might have looked
at DoF deeply.
At one point, I thought about writing a paper for IS4SI 2019 – 'Information
Science of Entropy Science?' exploring the topic, but I had not thought
deeply about it (not sure I was even thinking DoF at that time)
As I now focus on General and Super Intelligence (for AI modeling), I am
revisiting the matter.
At the risk of embarassing myself – I explore this DoF approach in an
early draft, should you have interest.
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wNtaOib67CMsBe0SudNDl6ZVWrbXmdNw/view?usp=share_link__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UvWbJB2ZMI3JzAE9h09-IXrOuiDc5LzU3hmliJvzJWuaMTC2SO0WJndVeZ9hCCIVm1E_5UX1DbrkZKEp$ 
DRAFT – Entropy, a scientific base for super-intelligence
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wNtaOib67CMsBe0SudNDl6ZVWrbXmdNw/view?usp=share_link__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UvWbJB2ZMI3JzAE9h09-IXrOuiDc5LzU3hmliJvzJWuaMTC2SO0WJndVeZ9hCCIVm1E_5UX1DbrkZKEp$ >

Dear Terry – I hope all is and has been going well for you, and Happy New
Year to you as well!
It often bothered me that I complained about you using 'thermodynamic
entropy' as a base for 'teleodynamics' . . . but I never framed an
alternative. I held an 'intuitive alternative' in my mind, but (as noted
above) I had not yet thought deeply about it. In the above draft, I start
to correct that lapse. So, perhaps this material may interest you. I also
envision (not yet in the draft) how Natural DoF breaks would LOGICALLY
point to differed operative levels (formal 'domains'), and 'constraints'
tied to those domains . . . without having to name a specific
as-yet-undiscovered 'scientific functions' to frimly detail what is an
essential 'logical necessity'.

Francesco – yes, I looked at Prigogine's work a long while back, but found
it too unspecific.
The same with Schrödinger's neg-entropy; and the same for various views of
entropy exporting roles.
Still, thanks for sharing your thoughts! And . . . Happy New Year to you
too!
 Marcus
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