[Fis] Fwd: Tough question: Decolonizing mathematics?

Wed Feb 8 06:07:04 CET 2023

Dear All,
on 02/01/2023 I was the first to propose taking into account the importance
of the paradigm of the beauty of music or the music of beauty for
scientific knowledge-experience. Only Plamen, the next day, (to me) wrote
"I love this reflections" referring precisely to my email. And what do many
others do? Often they only have  criticisms, sometimes unsustainable. I do
it differently and when I can congratulate or express positive judgments
towards my colleagues, I do it with generosity and pleasure. Patience!
In this perspective, in many of my books, I have dedicated a lot of depth
or space. In a composition that I am concluding, among other things, the
following two chapters appear:

 695 16. The Christianity of Humanism or the Humanism of Christianity is
the greatest revolution in history due to the beauty of humanism or the
humanism of the beauty that save the world I 16.1 Beauty saves the world
through love that shares pain and has something to do with science, because
the criterion of beauty, also according to Paul Dirac, is a privileged way
to seek, recognize and find the truth without having so many illusions
,because the only possible certainty is that of uncertainties ̶ 16.2
Complex systems are not simple and to be understood they need the thought
of economics or the economy of thought: Ernst Mach's empirio-criticism and
my New Economy

737 17 Christianity of Humanism or the Humanism of Christianity is the
greatest revolution in history because of the beauty of humanism or the
humanism of beauty that saves the world II 1 7.1 Ernst Mach's thought, the
magic square and «creative reason» make ecology the science of the human,
natural and architectural environment, and economy the science of earthly
and celestial contemplative mediation: «The home and the kingdom of the of
the father will be steadfast forever» (2Sam 7, 16) ̶ 17. 2Beauty,
revolutionary science, lessons in humility, the economy of poverty or the
poverty of the economy: the poor become rich, through the incarnation of
Jesus Christ, Son of man and Son of God, who from rich became poor.
Excuse me, but I felt the need to do so, without any presumptions and
always grateful to Pedro and to all of you.
With friendship, Francesco. .
Cari Tutti,
il 1.2.2023  per primo ho proposto di tener conto dell'importanza del
paradigma della bellezza della musica o della musica
della bellezza per la conoscenza-esperienza scientifica. Solo Plamen, il
giorno dopo,  (mi) ha scritto "I love this reflections"
riferendosi proprio alla mia mail. E tanti altri cosa fanno? Spesso hanno
da farmi solo  critiche, talvolta insostenibili. Io faccio
diversamente e quando posso congratularmi o esprimere giudizi positivi nei
confronti dei colleghi lo faccio con generosità e
piacere. Pazienza!
In questa prospettiva, in tanti miei libri, ho dedicato tanto
approfondimento o spazio. In una composizione che sto concludendo,
fra l'altro, figurano i seguenti due capitoli:

695 16. Il Cristianesimo dell’Umanesimo o l’Umanesimo del Cristianesimo è
la rivoluzione più grande della storia a causa della bellezza
dell’umanesimo o dell’umanesimo della bellezza che salva il mondo I

16.1 La bellezza salva il mondo attraverso l’amore che condivide il dolore
e c’entra con la scienza, perché il criterio di bellezza, anche secondo
Paul Dirac, è un modo privilegiato per cercare, riconoscere e trovare la
verità senza farsi tante illusioni, perché l’unica certezza possibile è
quella delle incertezze ̶ 16.2 I sistemi complessi non sono semplici e per
essere compresi hanno bisogno del pensiero dell’economia o dell’economia
del pensiero: l’*empirio-criticismo* di Ernst Mach e la mia *Nuova economia*

737 17 Il Cristianesimo dell’Umanesimo o l’Umanesimo del Cristianesimo è la
rivoluzione più grande della storia a causa della bellezza dell’umanesimo o
dell’umanesimo della bellezza che salva il mondo II

17.1 Il pensiero di Ernst Mach, il quadrato magico e la «ragione creativa»
fanno dell’ecologia la scienza dell’ambiente umano, naturale e
architettonico, e dell’economia la scienza della mediazione contempl-attiva
terrena e celeste: «La casa e il regno del figlio del padre saranno saldi
per sempre» (2*Sam* 7, 16) ̶ 17. 2 Bellezza, scienza rivoluzionaria,
lezioni di umiltà, economia della povertà o povertà dell’economia: i poveri
diventano ricchi, mediante l’incarnazione di Gesù Cristo, Figlio dell’uomo
e Figlio di Dio, che da ricco è diventato povero.

Scusatemi, ma ho sentito il bisogno di farlo, senza alcuna presunzione e
sempre grato a Pedro e a tutti voi.

Con amicizia, Francesco.

.

Il giorno lun 6 feb 2023 alle ore 19:25 Pedro C. Marijuán <
pedroc.marijuan en gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Dear FIS Colleagues, in a parallel discussion some interesting mails have
> been exchanged around the ideological trends taken off in many sciences,
> maths included. See Plamen's below. Tomorrow I will enter another couple of
> messages (from Kauffman and Baars, if they have no inconvenient).
>
> Regards--Pedro
>
>
> -------- Mensaje reenviado --------
> Asunto: Re: Tough question: Decolonizing mathematics?
> Fecha: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 15:02:34 +0100
> De: Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov <plamen.l.simeonov en gmail.com>
> <plamen.l.simeonov en gmail.com>
> Para: Giuseppe Longo <Giuseppe.Longo en ens.fr> <Giuseppe.Longo en ens.fr>
> CC: Bernard Baars <baarsbj en gmail.com> <baarsbj en gmail.com>, Bruno Marchal
> <bruno.marchal en insas.be> <bruno.marchal en insas.be>, Louis Kauffman
> <loukau en gmail.com> <loukau en gmail.com>, Ralph Abraham <abraham en vismath.org>
> <abraham en vismath.org>, Andree EHRESMANN <acehres en wanadoo.fr>
> <acehres en wanadoo.fr>, Maël Montévil <mael.montevil en gmail.com>
> <mael.montevil en gmail.com>, Joseph Brenner <joe.brenner en bluewin.ch>
> <joe.brenner en bluewin.ch>, pedroc.marijuan en gmail.com, Ted Goranson
> <tedgoranson en me.com> <tedgoranson en me.com>, Marcin SCHROEDER
> <mjs en gl.aiu.ac.jp> <mjs en gl.aiu.ac.jp>, Gordana Dodig Crnkovic
> <gordana.dodig-crnkovic en chalmers.se> <gordana.dodig-crnkovic en chalmers.se>,
> Leslie Smith <l.s.smith en cs.stir.ac.uk> <l.s.smith en cs.stir.ac.uk>, Ronald
> Brown <ronniegpd50 en gmail.com> <ronniegpd50 en gmail.com>, Madan Thangavelu
> <madan.thangavelu5 en gmail.com> <madan.thangavelu5 en gmail.com>, fis
> <fis en listas.unizar.es> <fis en listas.unizar.es>, Brian Josephson
> <bdj10 en cam.ac.uk> <bdj10 en cam.ac.uk>
>
> Dear Giuseppe,
>
> thank you so much for this wonderful paper on imagination, Renaissance art
> and mathematics! I wish it could be attached to our recent FIS NY
> discussion session on the roots of modern civilization. (Pedro, could you
> attach Giuseppe's email to it, please?) I am sorry that I did not invite
> you to participate in this session, Giuseppe. Of course, these concepts of
> beauty and (hidden) order are not only of European origin only. That's why
> I said earlier that mathematics must be communicated to young scholars as
> an inclusive discipline from its very beginning. We know that the Library
> of Alexandria was in Egypt. Who knows how many treasures were lost by this
> silly act of the early Christians who burned it, so we had to recover and
> adopt much of the lost roots of earlier cultures (medicine, poetry,
> astrology and mathematics) from the Persians like Avicenna (Ibn Sina), Omar
> Khayamm (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khayyam__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U_mT53CjjAkHSiz64wD3KZVfxf75rP9dJqDEMrmMjV2BuDzLPfWNqyZfCMVvIo9WssTjPLFf3dX-mea9FlY-n2CRcydZ$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khayyam__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!VMhuQTUJudd2clSvQViANpqOK3hU10POkj-g4vozhxYSICPQCTOoPttWLl4w6C3JoISspxBZOht8o6jOy1WH0gP_tBS8$>),
> and Saadi Shirazi (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saadi_Shirazi__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U_mT53CjjAkHSiz64wD3KZVfxf75rP9dJqDEMrmMjV2BuDzLPfWNqyZfCMVvIo9WssTjPLFf3dX-mea9FlY-nwK4S0GA$ 
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> ) and the Arabs in the Middle Ages who stayed for a while in Spain.
> Also, the genius of 20th century Srinivasa Ramanujan (
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U_mT53CjjAkHSiz64wD3KZVfxf75rP9dJqDEMrmMjV2BuDzLPfWNqyZfCMVvIo9WssTjPLFf3dX-mea9FlY-nxVKVKNC$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!VMhuQTUJudd2clSvQViANpqOK3hU10POkj-g4vozhxYSICPQCTOoPttWLl4w6C3JoISspxBZOht8o6jOy1WH0l_vSCIL$>),
> the man who knew infinity (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXGm9Vlfx4w__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U_mT53CjjAkHSiz64wD3KZVfxf75rP9dJqDEMrmMjV2BuDzLPfWNqyZfCMVvIo9WssTjPLFf3dX-mea9FlY-n87sHbdS$ 
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> has inherited much of his unconventional thinking and problem solving
> methods from his native culture. We need to preserve and provide the
> deserved tribute to every participant of our world's cultural inheritance.
> Earlier generations of European mathematicians and other scientists were
> indeed much more tolerant to newcomers from other fields and geographic
> regions than the DEI bureaucrats occupying the faculties of the ivory
> league universities in the USA and UK today (
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.foxnews.com/media/professor-white-people-become-less-damaging-dismantle-whiteness__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U_mT53CjjAkHSiz64wD3KZVfxf75rP9dJqDEMrmMjV2BuDzLPfWNqyZfCMVvIo9WssTjPLFf3dX-mea9FlY-n1w1okdE$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.foxnews.com/media/professor-white-people-become-less-damaging-dismantle-whiteness__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!VMhuQTUJudd2clSvQViANpqOK3hU10POkj-g4vozhxYSICPQCTOoPttWLl4w6C3JoISspxBZOht8o6jOy1WH0pFj4ddf$>
> ).
>
> Knowledge and wisdom in science have always been all-inclusive and do not
> need special ideological programs. Just as in music, literature, theatre
> and art they provide the link to higher dimensions of human virtues and
> spiritual evolution which go beyond finite state machine automation and
> control, so highly appreciated with AI these days. Coming back to the roots
> of past cultural inventions on all continents is what would help us resolve
> the tight knots of the present.  Maybe also forgotten ancient Inca' quipu'
> techniques could be part of future modes for highly effective mathematics
> and (quantum) computation. Yet, the first thing a modern Vitruvian Man
> needs to revolt against are Middle Ages 2.0 we are facing today because of
> these realities:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https*3A*2F*2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com*2Fpublic*2Fimages*2F0a59d2cd-05aa-4c0b-97ba-493303b7bf98_866x890.png?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email__;JSUlJSUl!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U_mT53CjjAkHSiz64wD3KZVfxf75rP9dJqDEMrmMjV2BuDzLPfWNqyZfCMVvIo9WssTjPLFf3dX-mea9FlY-n2d_ghKg$ 
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> We need to restructure and educate first again, if we wish to not let the
> beauty of mathematics and science be lost.
>
> Have a great week,
>
> Plamen
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 10:31 AM Giuseppe Longo <Giuseppe.Longo en ens.fr>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> sometimes blends are very fruitful: the invention of the first symbolic
>> form of actual (and mathematical) infinity and of mathematical space was a
>> theologico-pictorial gesture, in D. Arasse's words:
>>
>> G. Longo, Sara Longo.  Infinity of God and Space of Men in Painting,
>> Conditions of Possibility for the Scientific Revolution.  In ‘‘*Mathematics
>> in the Visual Arts*’’ (R. Scheps and M.-C. Maurel ed.), ISTE-WILEY Ltd,
>> London, 2020
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.di.ens.fr/users/longo/files/InfinitySpaceMenLoLo.pdf__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U_mT53CjjAkHSiz64wD3KZVfxf75rP9dJqDEMrmMjV2BuDzLPfWNqyZfCMVvIo9WssTjPLFf3dX-mea9FlY-n8mz2uPF$ 
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>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> --
>>
>> Giuseppe Longo
>>
>> web page
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>>
>>
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