[Fis] End of the NY Lecture / The Greater Sea

Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov plamen.l.simeonov at gmail.com
Thu Feb 2 11:41:53 CET 2023


Adoro questo riflesso, cara Francesco! John Barrow è uno dei miei
compositori moderni preferiti, proprio come Ennio Morricone.

Musica/Vibrazioni e matematica, ma anche l'arte visiva tocca i nostri
sensi/menti da una dimensione più alta.

Benedizioni a tutti voi, FIS cavalieri!

Plamen

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I love this reflection, dear Francesco! John Barrow is one of my favourite
modern composers, just as Ennio Morricone.

Music/vibrations and mathematics, but also visual art touch our
senses/minds from a higher dimension.

Blessings to all of you, FIS knights!

Plamen

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 6:13 PM Francesco Rizzo <13francesco.rizzo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Pedro and dear all,
> after reading the poem you suggested we meditate on, I am listening to a
> beautiful musical concert and it occurs to me to tell you or tell you that
> the best scientific paradigm is precisely that of music. The beauties and
> "possible properties" or the "imponderable variables" of things or people
> cannot be understood by any exclusively mathematical logic or formula. "No
> non-poetic description of reality can be complete" (John D.Barrow).
> Therefore, no more presumptions when we want to approach the understanding
> of the natural and human universe. Love is a great virtue, and an equally
> great scientific category. An affectionate and auspicious hug.
> Francesco.
> Caro Pedro e cari tutti,
> dopo aver letto la poesia che ci hai suggerito di meditare, sto ascoltando
> un bel concerto musicale e mi sovviene
> di dirTi o dirVi che il miglior paradigma scientifico è proprio quello
> della musica. Le bellezze e le "proprietà eventuali"
> o le "variabili imponderabili" delle cose o delle persone non possono
> essere comprese da alcuna logica  o formula
> esclusivamente matematica. "Nessuna descrizione non poetica della realtà
> può essere completa" (John D.Barrow).
> Quindi, bando alle presunzioni  quando vogliamo accostarci alla
> comprensione  dell'universo naturale e umano.
> L'amore è  una grande virtù,  e un'altrettanto grande categoria
> scientifica. Un abbraccio affettuoso e augurale.
> Francesco.
>
>
> Il giorno mer 1 feb 2023 alle ore 14:06 Pedro C. Marijuán <
> pedroc.marijuan at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Dear All,
>> The New Year Lecture is over. We may continue the related exchanges, of
>> course, but Plamen, our lecturer, has now lost his privilege of unlimited
>> posts.
>> Thanks are due to him for his great contribution!!
>>
>> As a "decompression" let me publish again the impressive poem by Kahlil
>> Gibran. He pictures so well common intellectual troubles and attitudes...
>>
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>>
>> Best wishes to all,
>>
>> --Pedro
>> The Greater Sea
>> My soul and I went to the great sea to bathe.  And when we reached the
>> shore, we went about looking for a hidden and lonely place.
>>
>> But as we walked, we saw a man sitting on a grey rock taking pinches of
>> salt from a bag and throwing them into the sea.
>>
>> “This is the pessimist,” said my soul, “Let us leave this place. We
>> cannot bathe here.”
>>
>> We walked on until we reached an inlet.  There we saw, standing on a
>> white rock, a man holding a bejeweled box,
>> from which he took sugar and threw it into the sea.
>>
>> “And this is the optimist,” said my soul, “And he too must not see our
>> naked bodies.”
>>
>> Further on we walked.  And on a beach we saw a man picking up dead fish
>> and tenderly putting them back into the water.
>>
>> “And we cannot bathe before him,” said my soul.  “He is the humane
>> philanthropist.”
>>
>> And we passed on.
>>
>> Then we came where we saw a man tracing his shadow on the sand. Great
>> waves came and erased it.  But he went on tracing it again and again.
>>
>> “He is the mystic,” said my soul, “Let us leave him.”
>>
>> And we walked on, till in a quiet cover we saw a man scooping up the foam
>> and putting it into an alabaster bowl.
>>
>> “He is the idealist,” said my soul, “Surely he must not see our nudity.”
>>
>> And on we walked.  Suddenly we heard a voice crying, “This is the sea.
>> This is the deep sea.  This is the vast and mighty sea.”
>> And when we reached the voice it was a man whose back was turned to the
>> sea, and at his ear he held a shell, listening to its murmur.
>>
>> And my soul said, “Let us pass on.  He is the realist, who turns his back
>> on the whole he cannot grasp, and busies himself with a fragment.”
>>
>> So we passed on.  And in a weedy place among the rocks was a man with his
>> head buried in the sand.  And I said to my soul, “We can bath here, for he
>> cannot see us.”
>>
>> “Nay,” said my soul, “For he is the most deadly of them all.  He is the
>> puritan.”
>>
>> Then a great sadness came over the face of my soul, and into her voice.
>>
>> “Let us go hence,” she said, “For there is no lonely, hidden place where
>> we can bathe.  I would not have this wind lift my golden hair,
>> or bare my white bosom in this air, or let the light disclose my sacred
>> nakedness.”
>>
>> Then we left that sea to seek the Greater Sea.
>>
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>>
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