[Fis] Little Reorder for Twelve Books but Big Reorder for Humanity

[Karl Javorszky]

Yes, Joseph, there are inroads towards recognizing oneself which will not
yield numerical or unambiguous logical answers.

You could start with meditation along the following :

1. Do i believe that I can learn something that I have not figured out,

2. What do I need to recognize that I am being told methods to solve
questions I pretend to be interested in,

3. Can I distinguish my inner disposition whether I am unable to learn or I
am unwilling to learn,

4. Is it my niveau to try to mock someone who is willing to teach me,

5. What would i say and write if I was less calculating but more honest,

6. How would I behave if I was a grown up person,

And many more inroads.

Ready to help.
Karl


joe.brenner en bluewin.ch <joe.brenner en bluewin.ch> schrieb am So., 3. Dez.
2023, 17:29:

>  ... from diverse sides, then, ( One of methods to calm inner tensions is
> to encourage discussing the thema from diverse sides. ) including those
> that focus on things, changes for which algorthms cannot be written?
>
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> ----Message d'origine----
> De : karl.javorszky en gmail.com
> Date : 03/12/2023 - 09:17 (E)
> À : fis en listas.unizar.es
> Objet : [Fis] Little Reorder for Twelve Books but Big Reorder for Humanity
>
> Learning Liaison Algorithms
>
> 2023 12 01
>
>
>
> In the FIS chatroom, the idea was offered that quantum computing,
> information management, intelligent decision making, and creative
> intelligence seem to be aspects of a general idea which has no names yet.
> (Remember the urban legend, in which blindfolded people, who had never ever
> before met an elephant, describe the thing they feel when exposed to one.)
>
> What distinguishes the FIS group from all other collections of scientific
> collaborators researching this here central subject of what is information,
> is that here in Fis the members are open-minded and use introspection as a
> tool towards understanding Nature. The learned friends understand that this
> old slapstick from the Greeks: “recognize thyself” is indeed a solid
> advice.
>
>    1. The experimenter bias: overcome
>
> Fis has understood that a model of the world that includes an inner
> controversy appears to picture the world better than a model of the world
> that assumes the parts of the world to fit together seamlessly, with no
> deviations, controversy, relative inexactitudes nor tolerance.
>
> By this insight, Fis has overcome an important cultural taboo, that still
> inhibits other learned friends.
>
>    1. Active Research
>
> Fis has understood that it is not enough to have found logical and
> numerical proof for the inner inconsistency of the symbol set, but it is
> necessary to establish an industry of processing data according to the new
> understandings, namely that the snippets that fall off in the tolerance
> range of inner deviations within the symbol set, are a valuable resource,
> of which Nature apparently stitches new things together, be these new space
> segments, material-equivalents in this space or extents of certitudes.
>
> To establish a new industry of data processing, it is necessary to
> assemble a prototype. Fis researchers are emerging way above the shoulders
> of those non-Fisers among their colleagues, who have no idea, that 1. The
> world has an inbuilt crack in itself, 2. The extent of the serration can in
> all cases be established to the precision desired, 3. One can conduct
> additions and more operations with the extents by which two parts do not
> fit, although in other circumstances these parts would fit (here, Fisers
> keep an inward grin, because they know the true meaning of predecessor and
> successor, which the mortal non-Fisers need a long education to become
> aware of. There is a market to being between two values that can then be
> predecessor and successor. Which two and which value ranges is dependent on
> the liaison values.)
>
>    1. Readiness to Learn, Transference and Counter-Transference in
>    Exchanges
>
> The main personality trait that sets a Fiser apart from the *hoi polloi *is
> that a true Fiser is always open towards learning something new. One
> welcomes the ach so seldom Aha-experiences. Developing the algorithms that
> other people call quantum computing, by resorting pairs of natural numbers,
> gives one a spring in the step. There is a politely hidden inner pleasure
> (social gain) in explaining whatever, based on the fact of the other not
> having figured it out by himself. In the social interactions of a
> psychologist, this interference comes together with the role expectations.
> Within the etiquette among technical people, no such comforting role
> ascriptions are a priori present. It is necessary to spread the inner gain
> of having discovered something new and clever among all the members of this
> learned society. As they teach something new and interesting, they gain the
> appreciations from their audiences. That will more than compensate for the
> decrease in self-esteem they had to pay while they had accepted that they
> need to learn something new. Indeed, we have in our ensemble during the
> last two decades done a great collective work. Fisers will earn great
> respect due to having solved the mysteries of the Twelve Books. They will
> need to look up suitable words while they explain that it is not the
> mathematical complication of resorting twelve books, but rather the inner
> resistance against doing something that is less than what the finetuned,
> highly geared brain is educated for. Non-Fisers stick to their convictions
> that it is below their dignity to reorder twelve books. Order, whichever
> version of it, cannot create anything new and remarkable – so they
> erroneously think, the non-Fisers. They are of course partly right: not the
> orders themselves, each individually, give rise to spectacles, but that
> there are many orders and that they are different is what sparks eventually
> a mixture.
>
> What a pleasure that under the wise chairmanship of Pedro, Fisers have the
> opportunity to signal that they are different. There is a 3-5 step
> interactional behavior dance before transmission of food or information
> between the giver and the receiver takes place.
>
> *T: I have something to teach you. Are you interested?* [I have food.]
>
> *P: Yes, I am willing to learn. *[I am hungry]
>
> *T: OK, so show me that you are willing to learn quantum computing.
> Reorder 12 books and give me the distribution of the lengths of cycles you
> have found. *[So scratch me on that spot which makes me feed you]
>
> *P: does it *[performs the right scratching]
>
> *T: Yes, this shows that you are interested to learn something new. Now
> listen: *[regurgitates]
>
> If there had been no open declaration of the will to learn, Fis would
> never have achieved that famed status it enjoys now, where scientists the
> world over are asking them: “say, you were among the very first few who
> understood that a place and a thing on a place are but different readings
> of the same numbers? What a titanic effort! Congratulations!”
>
> In all modesty, Fisers will then answer, Oh, I was always an onion of a
> genius, Fis had allowed me to blossom. By the mutual trust and intellectual
> honesty and integrity I soaked up there, I was able to overcome my natural
> disgust towards thinking that I would need to learn something new, and in
> the end, I actually picked up 12 books and reordered them. And the rest, as
> you know, is history. Fame came by itself. There were so many names to
> assign to so many distinguishable and important details of the mechanism
> that explains how parts and the whole interact.
>
> Fisers are different to lesser people, because Fisers understand, that
> before learning a new way to make music, one has to agree among each other
> in the orchestra, what is a violon and what is a clarinet, and how to keep
> the beat. Before one can learn the intricacies of what is where when, one
> needs to come to grips with the ideas of what we call a ‘what’ and what we
> call a ‘where’. 12 books are perfectly suitable for this task. This was the
> most important Aha in the long inner evolution that I made, will the Fisers
> say.
>
>    1. Next Steps
>
> Those, who give a sign of life and of willingness to learn, can look
> forward to the pleasures of model-building. The next Aha-s will concern
> replacing books with *(a,b)*, and 12 with 16. Formalizing the
> relationship of *a, b* and establishing the linear position for each
> *(a,b)* in the different relations comes next. Then one draws pictures,
> lines connecting dots.
>
> Of the planes with dots on them, one assembles 3D spaces and the picture
> unfolds. This person’s job is done as soon as the logical syntax of the DNA
> is recognized in the structure of 2 Descartes spaces turning in three
> phases. That is also a great Aha. Of course, it can not be anyhow else but
> only if deeply connected to the structure of space.
>
>    1. Make a Hamlet of It
>
> One of methods to calm inner tensions is to encourage discussing the thema
> from diverse sides. If one does not know whether to marry / divorce their
> partner (or in some similar conflict), it helps if one discusses the
> question by giving a voice to imagined pro and contra inner advocates. One
> could do similar exercises on the thema of reordering twelve books.
>
> *(Shall I do it? What would people say? Can I disgrace myself by resorting
> or by not resorting? Has anyone allowed this to go forward? Is this not a
> deep fake? Am I being taken for a ride? What would Socrates or Diogenes
> have said about people who keep their noses high and do not notice the
> self-evident before their feet? How could have Gauss or Euler or Kepler
> have calculated this given that they had no computers?)*
>
> After these inner convolutions will have been processed, attention will
> return towards the collection of distances that are grouped into cycles.
> Then you can switch into working mode.
>
>
>
> Looking forward
>
> Karl
>
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