<div dir="auto">Yes, Joseph, there are inroads towards recognizing oneself which will not yield numerical or unambiguous logical answers.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You could start with meditation along the following :</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1. Do i believe that I can learn something that I have not figured out,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2. What do I need to recognize that I am being told methods to solve questions I pretend to be interested in, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3. Can I distinguish my inner disposition whether I am unable to learn or I am unwilling to learn, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">4. Is it my niveau to try to mock someone who is willing to teach me, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">5. What would i say and write if I was less calculating but more honest, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">6. How would I behave if I was a grown up person, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And many more inroads. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ready to help. </div><div dir="auto">Karl </div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a> <<a href="mailto:joe.brenner@bluewin.ch">joe.brenner@bluewin.ch</a>> schrieb am So., 3. Dez. 2023, 17:29:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><font size="3"> ... from diverse sides, then, ( </font>One of methods to calm inner tensions is to encourage discussing the thema from diverse sides.<span style="font-size:medium"> ) including those that focus on things, changes for which algorthms cannot be written?</span></div><div><span style="font-size:medium"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:medium">Cheers,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:medium">Joseph</span></div><br><blockquote style="margin-right:0px;margin-left:15px">----Message d'origine----<br>De : <a href="mailto:karl.javorszky@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">karl.javorszky@gmail.com</a><br>Date : 03/12/2023 - 09:17 (E)<br>À : <a href="mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">fis@listas.unizar.es</a><br>Objet : [Fis] Little Reorder for Twelve Books but Big Reorder for Humanity<br><br><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Learning Liaison Algorithms<span lang="HU"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">2023 12 01<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">In the FIS chatroom, </span>the idea was offered that quantum computing, information management, intelligent decision making, and creative intelligence seem to be aspects of a general idea which has no names yet. (Remember the urban legend, in which blindfolded people, who had never ever before met an elephant, describe the thing they feel when exposed to one.)<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What distinguishes the FIS group from all other collections of scientific collaborators researching this here central subject of what is information, is that here in Fis the members are open-minded and use introspection as a tool towards understanding Nature. The learned friends understand that this old slapstick from the Greeks: “recognize thyself”<span lang="HU"> is </span>indeed a solid advice.<span></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">The experimenter bias: overcome <span lang="HU"><span></span></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Fis has understood that a model of the world that includes an inner controversy appears to picture the world better than a model of the world that assumes the parts of the world to fit together seamlessly, with no deviations, controversy, relative inexactitudes nor tolerance.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">By this insight, Fis has overcome an important cultural taboo, that still inhibits other learned friends.<span></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">Active Research<span></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Fis has understood that it is not enough to have found logical and numerical proof for the inner inconsistency of the symbol set, but it is necessary to establish an industry of processing data according to the new understandings, namely that the snippets that fall off in the tolerance range of inner deviations within the symbol set, are a valuable resource, of which Nature apparently stitches new things together, be these new space segments, material-equivalents in this space or extents of certitudes. <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To establish a new industry of data processing, it is necessary to assemble a prototype. Fis researchers are emerging way above the shoulders of those non-Fisers among their colleagues, who have no idea, that 1. The world has an inbuilt crack in itself, 2. The extent of the serration can in all cases be established to the precision desired, 3. One can conduct additions and more operations with the extents by which two parts do not fit, although in other circumstances these parts would fit (here, Fisers keep an inward grin, because they know the true meaning of predecessor and successor, which the mortal non-Fisers need a long education to become aware of. There is a market to being between two values that can then be predecessor and successor. Which two and which value ranges is dependent on the liaison values.)<span></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">Readiness to Learn, Transference and Counter-Transference in Exchanges<span></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The main personality trait that sets a Fiser apart from the <i>hoi polloi </i>is that a true Fiser is always open towards learning something new. One welcomes the ach so seldom Aha-experiences. Developing the algorithms that other people call quantum computing, by resorting pairs of natural numbers, gives one a spring in the step. There is a politely hidden inner pleasure (social gain) in explaining whatever, based on the fact of the other not having figured it out by himself. In the social interactions of a psychologist, this interference comes together with the role expectations. Within the etiquette among technical people, no such comforting role ascriptions are a priori present. It is necessary to spread the inner gain of having discovered something new and clever among all the members of this learned society. As they teach something new and interesting, they gain the appreciations from their audiences. That will more than compensate for the decrease in self-esteem they had to pay while they had accepted that they need to learn something new. Indeed, we have in our ensemble during the last two decades done a great collective work. Fisers will earn great respect due to having solved the mysteries of the Twelve Books. They will need to look up suitable words while they explain that it is not the mathematical complication of resorting twelve books, but rather the inner resistance against doing something that is less than what the finetuned, highly geared brain is educated for. Non-Fisers stick to their convictions that it is below their dignity to reorder twelve books. Order, whichever version of it, cannot create anything new and remarkable – so they erroneously think, the non-Fisers. They are of course partly right: not the orders themselves, each individually, give rise to spectacles, but that there are many orders and that they are different is what sparks eventually a mixture.<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What a pleasure that under the wise chairmanship of Pedro, Fisers have the opportunity to signal that they are different. There is a 3-5 step interactional behavior dance before transmission of food or information between the giver and the receiver takes place. <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">T: I have something to teach you. Are you interested?</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%"> [I have food.]<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">P: Yes, I am willing to learn. </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">[I am hungry]<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">T: OK, so show me that you are willing to learn quantum computing. Reorder 12 books and give me the distribution of the lengths of cycles you have found. </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">[So scratch me on that spot which makes me feed you]<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">P: does it </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">[performs the right scratching]<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">T: Yes, this shows that you are interested to learn something new. Now listen: </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:107.0%">[regurgitates]<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If there had been no open declaration of the will to learn, Fis would never have achieved that famed status it enjoys now, where scientists the world over are asking them: “say, you were among the very first few who understood that a place and a thing on a place are but different readings of the same numbers? What a titanic effort! Congratulations!”<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In all modesty, Fisers will then answer, Oh, I was always an onion of a genius, Fis had allowed me to blossom. By the mutual trust and intellectual honesty and integrity I soaked up there, I was able to overcome my natural disgust towards thinking that I would need to learn something new, and in the end, I actually picked up 12 books and reordered them. And the rest, as you know, is history. Fame came by itself. There were so many names to assign to so many distinguishable and important details of the mechanism that explains how parts and the whole interact. <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fisers are different to lesser people, because Fisers understand, that before learning a new way to make music, one has to agree among each other in the orchestra, what is a violon and what is a clarinet, and how to keep the beat. Before one can learn the intricacies of what is where when, one needs to come to grips with the ideas of what we call a ‘what’ and what we call a ‘where’. 12 books are perfectly suitable for this task. This was the most important Aha in the long inner evolution that I made, will the Fisers say. <span></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">Next Steps<span></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Those, who give a sign of life and of willingness to learn, can look forward to the pleasures of model-building. The next Aha-s will concern replacing books with <i>(a,b)</i>, and 12 with 16. Formalizing the relationship of <i>a, b</i> and establishing the linear position for each <i>(a,b)</i> in the different relations comes next. Then one draws pictures, lines connecting dots. <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Of the planes with dots on them, one assembles 3D spaces and the picture unfolds. This person’s job is done as soon as the logical syntax of the DNA is recognized in the structure of 2 Descartes spaces turning in three phases. That is also a great Aha. Of course, it can not be anyhow else but only if deeply connected to the structure of space. <span></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">Make a Hamlet of It<span></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One of methods to calm inner tensions is to encourage discussing the thema from diverse sides. If one does not know whether to marry / divorce their partner (or in some similar conflict), it helps if one discusses the question by giving a voice to imagined pro and contra inner advocates. One could do similar exercises on the thema of reordering twelve books. <span></span></p>
<p><i>(Shall I do it? What would people say? Can I disgrace myself by resorting or by not resorting? Has anyone allowed this to go forward? Is this not a deep fake? Am I being taken for a ride? What would Socrates or Diogenes have said about people who keep their noses high and do not notice the self-evident before their feet? How could have Gauss or Euler or Kepler have calculated this given that they had no computers?)<span></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">After these inner convolutions will have been processed, attention will return towards the collection of distances that are grouped into cycles. Then you can switch into working mode.<span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Karl<span></span></p>
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