[Fis] Fwd: Re: emotions (From Howard)

Sat Apr 8 10:38:13 CEST 2023

Dear Pedro and dear all.
an affectionate and great Easter wish that trans-INFORMS us and makes us
re-BIRTH,
believer or non-believer, because our God, if he exists, is a Father who
loves everyone
his children.
A hug.
Francis.
Caro Pedro e cari tutti.
un affettuoso e grande augurio pasquale che ci tras-INFORMA e fa ri-NASCERE,
credenti o non credente, perché  il nostro Dio, se esiste, è un Padre che
ama tutti
i figli.
Un abbraccio.
Francesco.

Il giorno mar 4 apr 2023 alle ore 11:51 Pedro C. Marijuán <
pedroc.marijuan en gmail.com> ha scritto:

> -------- Mensaje reenviado --------
> Asunto: Re: [Fis] emotions
> Fecha: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 23:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
> De: Howard Bloom <howlbloom en aol.com> <howlbloom en aol.com>
> Responder a: Howard Bloom <howlbloom en aol.com> <howlbloom en aol.com>
> Para: roy.morrison114 en yahoo.com <roy.morrison114 en yahoo.com>
> <roy.morrison114 en yahoo.com>, fis en listas.unizar.es <fis en listas.unizar.es>
> <fis en listas.unizar.es>, jnavarrol en unizar.es <jnavarrol en unizar.es>
> <jnavarrol en unizar.es>
>
> wonderful stories.
>
> i call the selves that yank your hand off a hot stove or that bond to a
> shark the "selves below the floorboards of the self."
>
> according to my late acquaintance Jaak Panksepp, there are two major
> emotional brain centers--the hunting, seeking part that takes on challenges
> and is rewarded with dopamine.  and the bonding part of the brain, which, i
> suspect, works on oxytocin.
>
> the bonding part of the brain was at work in the shark who fell in love
> with the fisherman who saved her.
>
> with warmth and oomph--howard
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Morrison <roy.morrison114 en yahoo.com> <roy.morrison114 en yahoo.com>
> To: Howard Bloom <howlbloom en aol.com> <howlbloom en aol.com>;
> fis en listas.unizar.es <fis en listas.unizar.es> <fis en listas.unizar.es>; Jorge
> Navarro López <jnavarrol en unizar.es> <jnavarrol en unizar.es>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 3, 2023 12:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fis] emotions
>
> Is was a revelatory for me to watch the filmed interactions between a
> great white shark and a fisherman who saved her life  by cutting away the
> fish netting that entangled her that took a very long time..
>
> The shark for days wanted to be close to this man.She rolled over on her
> belly for him to stroke her. Every day he went out to fish she would appear
> and want to close to him.
>
> Clearly emotions are part of the shared genetically selected evolutionary
> development path that even a supposed heartless  killing machine predator
> gratitude, love, tenderness.
>
> The enormous complexity of the human mind body system mediated by an
> ensemble of hormonal signals suggests a few points to me:
>
> That emergence is the summary expression of emotion and thought is driven
> by chaotic dynamics where the stabilizing logistic curve of moderation and
> negative entropy is overtaken by strange attractors mediated by hormonal
> signals and the volume and intensity of informational flows. The strange
> attractors leading to the realization of conscious thought.
>
> Strange attractors I suggest are the root of emergence of new thoughts and
> ideas and summary judgements.
>
> Social theorist me was pondering the implications $90 trillion to be
> invested global transformation toward renewable energy and thinking how to
> make all energy users also become energy owns of  the renewable energy
> systems they used. After much typically unconscious deliberation the idea
> leaped to my mind that we could use tax equity as a means to transfer
> ownership to energy users who have contracted for renewable energy supply.
>
> This was a repurposing of the dark arts of finance for social benefit. Our
> species and our brains have evolved to take advantage of the exquisite
> complexity of our complex information resources that lead toward amazing
> things like a patent clerk staring at the window and watching the trains
> and first conceptualizing and then writing equations for  the Special
> Theory of Relativity. Our social existence and our language ability then
> resonates globally through billions of creative minds. To reduce the
> complexity of the human mind as just another programed computer is another
> and most popular philosophical category error to confuse wiring code
> instructing a machine  with the zettabytes of information in dynamic and
> shifting action of the human brain.
>
> The need to make quick summary judgements transmuted into taking action
> even before conscious thought take consciousness clearly evolutionarily
> selected. Once upon a time I was cutting down an old triple trunk dead elm
> tree in my farm pasture with a chain saw in my youthful foolishness. Aa I
> cut though one of the trunks, the but of the tree hinged to the other two
> suddenly swung back up toward my head. I jumped back before the thought
> that I could get killed came to consciousness. That's similar to pulling
> your hand off a hot stove before the pain signal makes your scream or shout.
>
> Roy
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> On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 12:56:04 PM EDT, Jorge Navarro López
> <jnavarrol en unizar.es> <jnavarrol en unizar.es> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Howard and FIS colleagues,
> Sorry for the delay to respond but I have had very complicated weeks.
> Regarding sentiment analysis, in my new research group at the University
> of Zaragoza, we have developed a new approach based on the combination of
> machine learning techniques, in particular sentiment analysis using
> lexicons, and multivariate statistical methods in order to assess the
> evolution of public opinion and social mood during social crises and
> natural disasters. Specifically:
>
>    - Public opinion on the Covid-19 vaccination process in Spain (via analysis
>    of Twitter messages): 10.1016/j.puhe.2022.12.003
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.1016/j.puhe.2022.12.003__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Tq_3t8ANuucqGc7VWAY8pdd_llK9KFP1oYCuWAlg37TJT6TX99iZJMrnOCek7snlH2xuBzbHAnLtnuek4FBGoy1ZAymR$>
>    - Press media impact of the Cumbre Vieja volcano activity in the
>    island of La Palma (Canary Islands, Spain):
>    https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4292722__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UmgnRTVW6sPqX1aG6xDN5eqr__NEtM4A5sPWkLnlHDIFeke7ABPdyuz4Pk8-Pkuu7fIbHp18qehFmdSOsWEAnz-OusJi$ 
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> The approach has also shown utility, in an indirect way, to gauge the
> social support for public policies during the catastrophes. Some results
> using Fourier transform are rather impresive.
> Perhaps the approach is not very advanced in its conceptualization of the
> basic emotions (anger, fear, anticipation, trust, surprise, sadness, joy,
> and disgust) and three valences regarding sentiments (positive, neutral,
> and negative). Actually I am working with Pedro in some better connection
> of sentiment analysis with the complex landscape of social emotions--so
> much abused in social networks. We think our concept of the "sociotype"
> could be useful to understand better the different kinds of social emotions
> and to denounce their perverse use in social media.
> Regards,
> Jorge Navarro
>
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