[Fis] Fwd: Re: emotions (From Howard)

Pedro C. Marijuán pedroc.marijuan at gmail.com
Tue Apr 4 11:51:04 CEST 2023

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Asunto: 	Re: [Fis] emotions
Fecha: 	Mon, 3 Apr 2023 23:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
De: 	Howard Bloom <howlbloom at aol.com>
Responder a: 	Howard Bloom <howlbloom at aol.com>
Para: 	roy.morrison114 at yahoo.com <roy.morrison114 at yahoo.com>, 
fis at listas.unizar.es <fis at listas.unizar.es>, jnavarrol at unizar.es 
<jnavarrol at unizar.es>

wonderful stories.

i call the selves that yank your hand off a hot stove or that bond to a 
shark the "selves below the floorboards of the self."

according to my late acquaintance Jaak Panksepp, there are two major 
emotional brain centers--the hunting, seeking part that takes on 
challenges and is rewarded with dopamine.  and the bonding part of the 
brain, which, i suspect, works on oxytocin.

the bonding part of the brain was at work in the shark who fell in love 
with the fisherman who saved her.

with warmth and oomph--howard

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Morrison <roy.morrison114 at yahoo.com>
To: Howard Bloom <howlbloom at aol.com>; fis at listas.unizar.es 
<fis at listas.unizar.es>; Jorge Navarro López <jnavarrol at unizar.es>
Sent: Mon, Apr 3, 2023 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Fis] emotions

Is was a revelatory for me to watch the filmed interactions between a 
great white shark and a fisherman who saved her life  by cutting away 
the fish netting that entangled her that took a very long time..

The shark for days wanted to be close to this man.She rolled over on her 
belly for him to stroke her. Every day he went out to fish she would 
appear and want to close to him.

Clearly emotions are part of the shared genetically selected 
evolutionary development path that even a supposed heartless killing 
machine predator gratitude, love, tenderness.

The enormous complexity of the human mind body system mediated by an 
ensemble of hormonal signals suggests a few points to me:

That emergence is the summary expression of emotion and thought is 
driven by chaotic dynamics where the stabilizing logistic curve of 
moderation and negative entropy is overtaken by strange attractors 
mediated by hormonal signals and the volume and intensity of 
informational flows. The strange attractors leading to the realization 
of conscious thought.

Strange attractors I suggest are the root of emergence of new thoughts 
and ideas and summary judgements.

Social theorist me was pondering the implications $90 trillion to be 
invested global transformation toward renewable energy and thinking how 
to make all energy users also become energy owns of  the renewable 
energy systems they used. After much typically unconscious deliberation 
the idea leaped to my mind that we could use tax equity as a means to 
transfer ownership to energy users who have contracted for renewable 
energy supply.

This was a repurposing of the dark arts of finance for social benefit. 
Our species and our brains have evolved to take advantage of the 
exquisite complexity of our complex information resources that lead 
toward amazing things like a patent clerk staring at the window and 
watching the trains and first conceptualizing and then writing equations 
for the Special Theory of Relativity. Our social existence and our 
language ability then resonates globally through billions of creative 
minds. To reduce the complexity of the human mind as just another 
programed computer is another and most popular philosophical category 
error to confuse wiring code instructing a machine  with the zettabytes 
of information in dynamic and shifting action of the human brain.

The need to make quick summary judgements transmuted into taking action 
even before conscious thought take consciousness clearly evolutionarily 
selected. Once upon a time I was cutting down an old triple trunk dead 
elm tree in my farm pasture with a chain saw in my youthful foolishness. 
Aa I cut though one of the trunks, the but of the tree hinged to the 
other two suddenly swung back up toward my head. I jumped back before 
the thought that I could get killed came to consciousness. That's 
similar to pulling your hand off a hot stove before the pain signal 
makes your scream or shout.


Roy Morrison roy.morrison114 at yahoo.com
roy at SunPartnersSolar.com
P.O. Box 36
Newton, Ma 0245

On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 12:56:04 PM EDT, Jorge Navarro López 
<jnavarrol at unizar.es> wrote:

Dear Howard and FIS colleagues,
Sorry for the delay to respond but I have had very complicated weeks.
Regarding sentiment analysis, in my new research group at the University 
of Zaragoza, we have developed a new approach based on the combination 
of machine learning techniques, in particular sentiment analysis using 
lexicons, and multivariate statistical methods in order to assess the 
evolution of public opinion and social mood during social crises and 
natural disasters. Specifically:

  * Public opinion on the Covid-19 vaccination process in Spain (via
    analysis of Twitter messages): 10.1016/j.puhe.2022.12.003
  * Press media impact of the Cumbre Vieja volcano activity in the
    island of La Palma (Canary Islands, Spain):

The approach has also shown utility, in an indirect way, to gauge the 
social support for public policies during the catastrophes. Some results 
using Fourier transform are rather impresive.
Perhaps the approach is not very advanced in its conceptualization of 
the basic emotions (anger, fear, anticipation, trust, surprise, sadness, 
joy, and disgust) and three valences regarding sentiments (positive, 
neutral, and negative). Actually I am working with Pedro in some better 
connection of sentiment analysis with the complex landscape of social 
emotions--so much abused in social networks. We think our concept of the 
"sociotype" could be useful to understand better the different kinds of 
social emotions and to denounce their perverse use in social media.
Jorge Navarro


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