[Fis] Book Presentation. The "protest industry"
Pedro C. Marijuán
pedroc.marijuan at gmail.com
Thu May 5 21:45:58 CEST 2022
Dear Mariusz and List colleagues,
I much agree with your comments below, but there is a point where more
analysis would be needed (an idea from Howard could be approached):
/How can we fight the crisis? In my opinion, just raising awareness and
describing the crisis is not enough (there are many publications
describing the current crisis). We need systemic changes (e.g.
elimination of commercialism in science) and, above all, we should
propose some positive alternative that will release our intellectual
potential and creative possibilities./
/
/
In my opinion, aspects such as the commercialization of science (or of
the arts) would not be so relevant. Conversely, the disconnection of
exploratory research from the very support structures of society could
be negative: the sciences and the arts should be partially autonomous
but also partially applied. This happens in all epochs, inevitably. In
our times, the importance of visual-computer arts in social propaganda
and media advertisement, now coupled with social networks
information/disinformation technologies, has grown enormously. It has
happened in an extremely fast pace, coupled with the new possibilities
to assemble collective agents (new social identities) that have suddenly
dominated large discussion spaces. These new social media & social
networks are sculpting a new psychology of the masses which becomes very
easily exploited by radical, polarized opinions and anti-system activists.
The "protest industry", to use Howard's terms, has gone awry. It is,
seemingly, one of the pillars of Western societies, but if it attacks
the foundations of collective freedoms and the whole historical legacy,
it becomes "nihilist (adolescent?) destruction" rather than mature
"creative destruction" (a la Schumpeter). It is very relevant that the
protest against climatic change was symbolized by an adolescent (Greta
Thunberg). Yes, let us follow adolescents, let us dress like them, and
let us think & act like them.
Proposing some positive alternative is far from easy... a new
intellectual avant-garde should crystalize.
Best--Pedro
/
/
El 26/04/2022 a las 17:27, Mariusz Stanowski escribió:
>
> Dear Pedro and collegues,
>
> I agree that "the historical evolution of art becomes a fascinating
> mirror of social evolution itself. Human evolution like other
> phenomena of reality is subject to cyclical changes. Currently we have
> a crisis in development/evolution, which has taken the form of a
> postmodern/neo-Marxist cultural revolution. Among other things, it
> consists in the deconstruction of all values, meanings, and emerging
> structures-ideas (in the name of avoiding totalitarianism) with
> simultaneous dependence on ideology.
>
> As a consequence, it leads to destructive chaos and degradation
> consisting in elimination of intellectual diversity and creative
> freedom. In such a situation, economic (globalism) or military
> (Ukraine) power determines what the world should look like. Cultural
> revolutionists have also succeeded in controlling art. I was at the
> Venice Biennale 4 years ago and saw Marx's Capital being read at the
> same hour/place every day.
>
> How can we fight the crisis? In my opinion, just raising awareness and
> describing the crisis is not enough (there are many publications
> describing the current crisis). We need systemic changes (e.g.
> elimination of commercialism in science) and, above all, we should
> propose some positive alternative that will release our intellectual
> potential and creative possibilities.
>
> Best regards
>
> Mariusz
>
>
> dniu 2022-04-26 o 14:20, Pedro C. Marijuan pisze:
>> Dear Mariusz,
>>
>> Beyond philosophical nuances, one of the most intriguing aspects of
>> art would concern its relationship with the intellectual & cultural
>> ethos of each epoch.
>> Art, stemming from inner drives of almost unfathomable origins, seems
>> to provide a compensation for some of the absences in the daily life
>> of citizens (a mostly urban phenomenon).
>> The observer, or listener, gets some of the intellective/emotional
>> contents emitted by the art producer, and that's satisfying for the
>> permanent search for novelty that characterizes our species in
>> civilized life regimes.
>> Your polysemic use of "contrast" is well adapted to discuss the
>> above, I think, both in the art object and in the receiver whole
>> appreciation.
>>
>> The curious point is that the historical evolution of art becomes a
>> fascinating mirror of social evolution itself. Thinking on Western
>> art (classic, medieval, renaissance, neoclassic, modern...), how
>> contents and styles have been evolved with the mentality of each
>> epoch.... Reminding about "media", It would echo what McLuhan was
>> saying about means of communication: every new media alters the
>> psychic equilibrium and forces a mental readaptation of the
>> individual within the whole communication mosaic.
>>
>> Coming to our times, How far could go the present "deconstruction" of
>> art, seemingly reduced to presentation of brute "novelty"?
>> Is there a way back to art contents satisfying the appetite for
>> intellective/emotional contents?
>>
>> To complicate things for the worse, some portions of "public art"
>> seem to have been swallowed by the superultimate "cancelation culture".
>> Is there anything left uncensored of the cultural & artistic past?
>>
>> I will appreciate your comments & opinions --and of the list colleagues,
>> Best--Pedro
>>
>> El 26/04/2022 a las 9:41, Mariusz Stanowski escribió:
>>>
>>> Dear Joseph,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your clarification, however I was only referring to
>>> Cartesian dualism.
>>> You also write that "the best art is neither totally realistic or
>>> abstract but has features of both".
>>> My understanding is that there is no absolutely abstract or
>>> realistic art at all. In the history of
>>> art we had both realism (Courbet) and abstractionism (Kandinsky).
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Mariusz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> W dniu 2022-04-24 o 16:06, joe.brenner at bluewin.ch pisze:
>>>> Dear Mariusz,
>>>>
>>>> Please let me try this first rapid response, without re-presenting
>>>> my entire approach. I understand your desire to avoid dualism, but
>>>> dualism is a part of physics, of our world. There is thus "bad"
>>>> dualism, which brings in invidious distinctions and separations.
>>>> "Good" dualism recognizes the fundamental difference between what
>>>> is (primarily) actual and (primarily) potential, as well as the
>>>> movement from one to the other, and between many other real pairs.
>>>>
>>>> In my logic, ontological and epistemological entities are in any
>>>> event not totally distinct, but /some/ share /some/ of one
>>>> another's properties, as do parts and wholes and so on, without
>>>> conflation.
>>>>
>>>> The dualism of electrostatic charge and magnetic polarity are real
>>>> and influence the way we exist and feel neurologically, and
>>>> cognitively. Another example is what is called colloquially "up"
>>>> and "down" nuclear spin, and there is some thought that some
>>>> sub-atomic particles are self-dual. I have even suggested that a
>>>> form of self-duality may exist at cognitive levels of reality.
>>>>
>>>> As I stated above, the best art is neither totally realistic or
>>>> abstract but has features of both. Perhaps the best strategy is to
>>>> keep an open mind on the subject or perhaps, like some sets, a
>>>> closed-open (clopen) mind.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> ----Message d'origine----
>>>> De : stanowskimariusz at wp.pl
>>>> Date : 24/04/2022 - 10:52 (CEST)
>>>> À : fis at listas.unizar.es
>>>> Objet : Re: [Fis] Book Presentation. The Interpersonal domain
>>>>
>>>> Dear Joseph,
>>>>
>>>> You've written: "such as information processes, has both an
>>>> ontic and an epistemic component"
>>>>
>>>> If we introduce a distinction between ontic and epistemic then
>>>> we are assuming a dualistic view in advance, which, for
>>>> example, I am not in favor of.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Mariusz
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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