[Fis] Book Presentation. The Interpersonal domain. Good Dualism and Bad Dualism
Terrence W. DEACON
deacon at berkeley.edu
Tue Apr 26 23:54:55 CEST 2022
"elimination of commercialism in science"
YES. Critical.
With most of the best new scientific discoveries published behind paywalls
science has become a rich person's enterprise with high thresholds to entry
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:27 AM Mariusz Stanowski <stanowskimariusz at wp.pl>
wrote:
> Dear Pedro and collegues,
>
> I agree that "the historical evolution of art becomes a fascinating mirror
> of social evolution itself. Human evolution like other phenomena of reality
> is subject to cyclical changes. Currently we have a crisis in
> development/evolution, which has taken the form of a postmodern/neo-Marxist
> cultural revolution. Among other things, it consists in the deconstruction
> of all values, meanings, and emerging structures-ideas (in the name of
> avoiding totalitarianism) with simultaneous dependence on ideology.
>
> As a consequence, it leads to destructive chaos and degradation consisting
> in elimination of intellectual diversity and creative freedom. In such a
> situation, economic (globalism) or military (Ukraine) power determines what
> the world should look like. Cultural revolutionists have also succeeded in
> controlling art. I was at the Venice Biennale 4 years ago and saw Marx's
> Capital being read at the same hour/place every day.
>
> How can we fight the crisis? In my opinion, just raising awareness and
> describing the crisis is not enough (there are many publications describing
> the current crisis). We need systemic changes (e.g. elimination of
> commercialism in science) and, above all, we should propose some positive
> alternative that will release our intellectual potential and creative
> possibilities.
>
> Best regards
>
> Mariusz
>
> dniu 2022-04-26 o 14:20, Pedro C. Marijuan pisze:
>
> Dear Mariusz,
>
> Beyond philosophical nuances, one of the most intriguing aspects of art
> would concern its relationship with the intellectual & cultural ethos of
> each epoch.
> Art, stemming from inner drives of almost unfathomable origins, seems to
> provide a compensation for some of the absences in the daily life of
> citizens (a mostly urban phenomenon).
> The observer, or listener, gets some of the intellective/emotional
> contents emitted by the art producer, and that's satisfying for the
> permanent search for novelty that characterizes our species in civilized
> life regimes.
> Your polysemic use of "contrast" is well adapted to discuss the above, I
> think, both in the art object and in the receiver whole appreciation.
>
> The curious point is that the historical evolution of art becomes a
> fascinating mirror of social evolution itself. Thinking on Western art
> (classic, medieval, renaissance, neoclassic, modern...), how contents and
> styles have been evolved with the mentality of each epoch.... Reminding
> about "media", It would echo what McLuhan was saying about means of
> communication: every new media alters the psychic equilibrium and forces a
> mental readaptation of the individual within the whole communication
> mosaic.
>
> Coming to our times, How far could go the present "deconstruction" of art,
> seemingly reduced to presentation of brute "novelty"?
> Is there a way back to art contents satisfying the appetite for
> intellective/emotional contents?
>
> To complicate things for the worse, some portions of "public art" seem to
> have been swallowed by the superultimate "cancelation culture".
> Is there anything left uncensored of the cultural & artistic past?
>
> I will appreciate your comments & opinions --and of the list colleagues,
> Best--Pedro
>
> El 26/04/2022 a las 9:41, Mariusz Stanowski escribió:
>
>
> Dear Joseph,
>
> Thank you for your clarification, however I was only referring to
> Cartesian dualism.
> You also write that "the best art is neither totally realistic or abstract
> but has features of both".
> My understanding is that there is no absolutely abstract or realistic art
> at all. In the history of
> art we had both realism (Courbet) and abstractionism (Kandinsky).
>
>
> Best regards
> Mariusz
>
>
>
>
> W dniu 2022-04-24 o 16:06, joe.brenner at bluewin.ch pisze:
>
> Dear Mariusz,
>
> Please let me try this first rapid response, without re-presenting my
> entire approach. I understand your desire to avoid dualism, but dualism is
> a part of physics, of our world. There is thus "bad" dualism, which brings
> in invidious distinctions and separations. "Good" dualism recognizes the
> fundamental difference between what is (primarily) actual and (primarily)
> potential, as well as the movement from one to the other, and between many
> other real pairs.
>
> In my logic, ontological and epistemological entities are in any event not
> totally distinct, but *some* share *some* of one another's properties, as
> do parts and wholes and so on, without conflation.
>
> The dualism of electrostatic charge and magnetic polarity are real and
> influence the way we exist and feel neurologically, and cognitively.
> Another example is what is called colloquially "up" and "down" nuclear
> spin, and there is some thought that some sub-atomic particles are
> self-dual. I have even suggested that a form of self-duality may exist at
> cognitive levels of reality.
>
> As I stated above, the best art is neither totally realistic or abstract
> but has features of both. Perhaps the best strategy is to keep an open mind
> on the subject or perhaps, like some sets, a closed-open (clopen) mind.
>
> Best,
> Joseph
>
> ----Message d'origine----
> De : stanowskimariusz at wp.pl
> Date : 24/04/2022 - 10:52 (CEST)
> À : fis at listas.unizar.es
> Objet : Re: [Fis] Book Presentation. The Interpersonal domain
>
> Dear Joseph,
>
> You've written: "such as information processes, has both an ontic and an
> epistemic component"
>
> If we introduce a distinction between ontic and epistemic then we are
> assuming a dualistic view in advance, which, for example, I am not in favor
> of.
>
> Best regards
>
> Mariusz
>
>
>
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