[Fis] Book Presentation. The Interpersonal domain. Good Dualism and Bad Dualism

Tue Apr 26 17:27:26 CEST 2022

Dear Pedro and collegues,

I agree that "the historical evolution of art becomes a fascinating 
mirror of social evolution itself. Human evolution like other phenomena 
of reality is subject to cyclical changes. Currently we have a crisis in 
development/evolution, which has taken the form of a 
postmodern/neo-Marxist cultural revolution. Among other things, it 
consists in the deconstruction of all values, meanings, and emerging 
structures-ideas (in the name of avoiding totalitarianism) with 
simultaneous dependence on ideology.

As a consequence, it leads to destructive chaos and degradation 
consisting in elimination of intellectual diversity and creative 
freedom. In such a situation, economic (globalism) or military (Ukraine) 
power determines what the world should look like. Cultural 
revolutionists have also succeeded in controlling art. I was at the 
Venice Biennale 4 years ago and saw Marx's Capital being read at the 
same hour/place every day.

How can we fight the crisis? In my opinion, just raising awareness and 
describing the crisis is not enough (there are many publications 
describing the current crisis). We need systemic changes (e.g. 
elimination of commercialism in science) and, above all, we should 
propose some positive alternative that will release our intellectual 
potential and creative possibilities.

Best regards

Mariusz

dniu 2022-04-26 o 14:20, Pedro C. Marijuan pisze:
> Dear Mariusz,
>
> Beyond philosophical nuances, one of the most intriguing aspects of 
> art would concern its relationship with the intellectual & cultural 
> ethos of each epoch.
> Art, stemming from inner drives of almost unfathomable origins, seems 
> to provide a compensation for some of the absences in the daily life 
> of citizens (a mostly urban phenomenon).
> The observer, or listener, gets some of the intellective/emotional 
> contents emitted by the art producer, and that's satisfying for the 
> permanent search for novelty that characterizes our species in 
> civilized life regimes.
> Your polysemic use of "contrast" is well adapted to discuss the above, 
> I think, both in the art object and in the receiver whole appreciation.
>
> The curious point is that the historical evolution of art becomes a 
> fascinating mirror of social evolution itself. Thinking on Western art 
> (classic, medieval, renaissance, neoclassic, modern...), how contents 
> and styles have been evolved with the mentality of each epoch.... 
> Reminding about "media", It would echo what McLuhan was saying about 
> means of communication: every new media alters the psychic equilibrium 
> and forces a mental readaptation of the individual within the whole 
> communication mosaic.
>
> Coming to our times, How far could go the present "deconstruction" of 
> art, seemingly reduced to presentation of brute "novelty"?
> Is there a way back to art contents satisfying the appetite  for 
> intellective/emotional contents?
>
> To complicate things for the worse, some portions of "public art" seem 
> to have been swallowed by the superultimate "cancelation culture".
> Is there anything left uncensored of the cultural & artistic past?
>
> I will appreciate your comments & opinions --and of the list colleagues,
> Best--Pedro
>
> El 26/04/2022 a las 9:41, Mariusz Stanowski escribió:
>>
>> Dear Joseph,
>>
>> Thank you for your clarification, however I was only referring to 
>> Cartesian dualism.
>> You also write that "the best art is neither totally realistic or 
>> abstract but has features of both".
>> My understanding is that there is no absolutely abstract or realistic 
>> art at all. In the history of
>> art we had both realism (Courbet) and abstractionism (Kandinsky).
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Mariusz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> W dniu 2022-04-24 o 16:06, joe.brenner at bluewin.ch pisze:
>>> Dear Mariusz,
>>>
>>> Please let me try this first rapid response, without re-presenting 
>>> my entire approach. I understand your desire to avoid dualism, but 
>>> dualism is a part of physics, of our world. There is thus "bad" 
>>> dualism, which brings in invidious distinctions and separations. 
>>> "Good" dualism  recognizes the fundamental difference between what 
>>> is (primarily) actual and (primarily) potential, as well as the 
>>> movement from one to the other, and between many other real pairs.
>>>
>>> In my logic, ontological and epistemological entities are in any 
>>> event not totally distinct, but /some/ share /some/ of one another's 
>>> properties, as do parts and wholes and so on, without conflation.
>>>
>>> The dualism of electrostatic charge and magnetic polarity are real 
>>> and influence the way we exist and feel neurologically, and 
>>> cognitively. Another example is what is called colloquially "up" and 
>>> "down" nuclear spin, and there is some thought that some sub-atomic 
>>> particles are self-dual. I have even suggested that a form of 
>>> self-duality may exist at cognitive levels of reality.
>>>
>>> As I stated above, the best art is neither totally realistic or 
>>> abstract but has features of both. Perhaps the best strategy is to 
>>> keep an open mind on the subject or perhaps, like some sets, a 
>>> closed-open (clopen) mind.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>     ----Message d'origine----
>>>     De : stanowskimariusz at wp.pl
>>>     Date : 24/04/2022 - 10:52 (CEST)
>>>     À : fis at listas.unizar.es
>>>     Objet : Re: [Fis] Book Presentation. The Interpersonal domain
>>>
>>>     Dear Joseph,
>>>
>>>     You've written: "such as information processes, has both an
>>>     ontic and an epistemic component"
>>>
>>>     If we introduce a distinction between ontic and epistemic then
>>>     we are assuming a dualistic view in advance, which, for example,
>>>     I am not in favor of.
>>>
>>>     Best regards
>>>
>>>     Mariusz
>>>
>>>
>
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