[Fis] Wake up call. Intelligence Science

Wed May 12 12:40:29 CEST 2021

Comments on Joe Brenner: Information in Operation: Probability

Once again, Joseph’s train of thought is a textbook example of the truism,
that Philosophy is the mother of all sciences, and that one can recognise
(a part) of philosophic sentences as true, if their content is being
observed in her daughters’ contextual framework, too. Those divinations
within the realm, where there are unanswered questions, which result in
empirical verification, are commonly understood to be true.

What Joseph says is that the system of rational relations leaves something
necessarily aside, which is not accessible by its methods. The background
to rational thinking is of course irrational. There is something, besides,
alongside, around the system created by rational thoughts, and how this
relates to that what we can clearly understand is what Philosophy centres
on. Adorno criticised Wittgenstein’s refusal to deal with the inexact,
saying that the job of a philosopher is to address that, what is unknown,
not to describe the grammar of that, what is already known. Joseph speaks
about that, what was hopelessly inexplicable in Wittgenstein’s time. At
that time, cataloguing, systematising and regulating that what was known
was a necessary step to consolidate and to serve as a basis for the next
step.

The general observations by Joseph about the landscape of the unknown treat
the subject in terms of probability and countability. His philosophic
thoughts have already given birth to a daughter-science, of which the name
is not yet decided, but many will recognise familiar features of the
new-born.

Advancing from the basis laid down by Wittgenstein, knowledge gained from
insights into the grammar and syntax of logical sentences has led the
technical daughter to experiment with demonstrative examples of probability
and countability. Results from the workshop support the design concepts
from the creatives. In fact, the known and the unknown have to interact, as
we continue living in a world that consists of foregrounds and backgrounds,
which at times can be interchanged. The relation of the background to the
foreground may remain a philosophical mystery forever, but systematically
exchanging the background-foreground properties observed on an experimental
population set free in its natural habitat shows that there are laws of
interactions between the two. These touch on probability and countability.
Seen from the inside, it is very hard to decide, which tools of prediction
one uses when observing predictable periodic changes: are these the
positions, the masses involved, their speed, their history or their
personal properties? The property of being *so many* is one among many
other determinants. If the background is axiomatic to the foreground, there
is no information, as Joseph points out. Information is involved, if *based
on this <background/foreground>, *one would expect a* different
<foreground/background>. *It may appear a heroic undertaking of accounting
to filter out the connections between background and foreground *as such, *but
it helps immensely, if we have a conceptual picture of how two
interdependent logical systems interact, irrespectively of how one names
them. In Joe’s case, these are named Logic and Reality. Wittgenstein called
them that, what we can and that we cannot speak about exactly. Our
neurology suggests we see them as a contrast-generating dichotomy.
Experiments with logical primitives show that the problem can be studied in
great detail.

*Summarising:* Information in Operation: Probability delineates concepts
that are well supported by technical observations.

Am Mi., 12. Mai 2021 um 11:15 Uhr schrieb Joseph Brenner <
joe.brenner en bluewin.ch>:

> Dear Marcin and Pedro,
>
>
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> Thank you for the reminder. For possible comments, I attach my one-page
> Abstract; the full paper, on information and probability, will be submitted
> to Mark Burgin’s Conference on Theoretical and Foundational Problems.
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> I welcome Pedro’s concept of re-opening the discussion of Natural
> Intelligence. This subject has come up in the recent work of our
> colleagues, Zhong Yixin, Shi Zhongzhi and Zhao Chuan on Intelligence
> Science. This topic is also mentioned as one for discussion in the
> Conference on the Philosophy of Information. My hope is that that it might
> attract, finally, some new work.
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> I look forward to a dialogue on these issues,
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> Best wishes,
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>
> Joseph
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> *Sent:* mercredi, 12 mai 2021 08:22
> *To:* Pedro C. Marijuan
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> *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Wake up call
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> Dear Pedro and FIS Friends,
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> Thank you Pedro for the reminder about the IS4SI Summit. If someone did
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> extended abstracts is June 15, 2021.* Participation in the Summit is free
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> Once again, thank you Pedro for the "wake-up call".
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> Regards,
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> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 4:41 AM Pedro C. Marijuan <
> pcmarijuan.iacs en aragon.es> wrote:
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> Dear FISers,
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> You will remember in those ancient times of travels and hotels (so distant
> now!) the request in the front desk for a wake up call... we should be on
> time for the presentations or for the shuttle to the airport.
>
> In these strange times of ours, of unrelenting isolation, every month our
> stamina reserves are little by little depleted, at least for those not
> directly involved in the duties of academic life or institutional research.
> How a wake up call might be arranged for those of us at the brisk of
> depression?
>
> In June 15th is the deadline for participating in the IS4SI 2021
> conference. See https://summit-2021.is4si.org/
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> *I think we should massively participate.* Let us post our tentative
> abstracts in the list, as Howard did, and let us have preliminary
> discussions.
>
> Personally, I will send an abstract to one of the sessions (still
> undecided which one could be fitting) about
>
> THE PARADIGM OF NATURAL INTELLIGENCE
>
> It will be argued that intelligence is a universal phenomenon present in
> all forms of life. It requires a new form of relationship with the
> environment, implying not only openness to energy flows but to information
> flows as well. External information processing, coupled with internal
> information processing, may produce an adaptive life cycle that manifests
> (natural) intelligence, produces meaning, and realizes fitness value. Out
> from the basic prokaryotic conformation, the unit of natural intelligence,
> it may develop hierarchically, via multicellularity, and particularly with
> the evolution of nervous systems. Then, natural intelligence fully develops
> up to the point, in the human case, of exhibiting pieces of artificial
> intelligence that mimic some of the basic properties of the former. It will
> be finally argued that without a proper understanding of natural
> intelligence, the scientific foundations of artificial intelligence will be
> shaky--notwithstanding the technological grandeur it is effectively
> achieving. But unbridled, half-understood technologies are not a panacea
> for societies. Often the opposite.
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> Best regards to all!
>
> --Pedro
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