[Fis] Abstract--Electronic Symbiosis—Lessons from Bacteria
Pedro C. Marijuan
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Mon Feb 15 19:43:21 CET 2021
Thanks Krassimir, it looks a good idea.
Those parties sending their abstracts, we should understand, are asking
for discussion.
Then, here there are some comments on Howard's.
"What’s more, the cellulose eaters could defecate material that was
toast with butter and jam to the cockroaches, the perfect food-- sugars
and short-chain fatty acids..."
Quite right. Waste of one species becomes excellent food for another. I
was then reminded Jerry's recent comments on entropy as being somehow
analogous with "forms of natural wastes, such as feces, dung, shit,
urine, etc." Well, it depends. Entropy itself, in Gibbs' free energy,
becomes a frequent positive contribution to the chemical reaction free
energy (when there is an entropy increase of products respect
reactants). And it often helps in enzyme function too (e.g., by entropy
change in vicinal water that empowers the enzyme for overcoming the
activation energy barrier). Things in nature usually work in a series of
conjugated, networked yin-yang relationships--rather than absolutes.
About the substance of the abstract, Who knows? Michel Conrad made a
curious relationship --tradeoff principle-- between adaptability,
evolvability, and information processing. An increase of the latter
diminishes the former. So, we may find less capable people as they rely
more and more on external algorithms or processing gadgets... is it
already happening with the current generation, socially less and less
adapted precisely because of their over-immersion onto "social networks"?
"If all goes well, that will be the relationship of AI and
humankind—symbiosis. Mutual empowerment." Not necessarily. This
biological argument is based on an exception. For /most /inter-species
long term evolutionary encounters conduce to... extinction.
Gloom and Doom!
--Pedro
El 14/02/2021 a las 16:57, Krassimir Markov escribió:
> Dear Howard,
> Thank you for the abstract.
> You are right!
>
> Dear Pedro,
> Maybe it is a good idea to discuss some abstracts in FIS list.
> I think, the moderators of sessions may take a such decision.
> Friendly greetings
> Krassimir
> *From:* Howard Bloom <mailto:howlbloom at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2021 3:06 AM
> *To:* fis at listas.unizar.es <mailto:fis at listas.unizar.es> ;
> pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es <mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>
> *Subject:* [Fis] Abstract--Electronic Symbiosis—Lessons from Bacteria
> i've submitted the following abstract to wolfgang hofkirchner for his
> digital humanism section of the conference:
>
> Electronic Symbiosis—Lessons from Bacteria
> Howard Bloom
> howlbloom at aol.com
> Author, The Lucifer Principle: a Scientific Expedition into the
> Forces of History
> Chairman, The Howard Bloom Institute
> Founder and co-chair, The Asian Space Technology Summit
> Former Visiting Scholar, Graduate Psychology Department, New York
> University
> Former Core Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute, Meriden,
> Connecticut
>
> Some say that we should not let humanity’s new electronic
> frontiers reshape us. But every time technology has reshaped us,
> it has upgraded us. To see how synergies with electronic systems
> like artificial intelligence can give humanity and humanism new
> powers, look at how bacteria have gained new abilities over the
> last billion years. They could have anticipated being annihilated
> by the new multicellulars and tried to stop multicellular
> formation. But the multicellulars did not wipe out their
> single-celled forebears. Far from it. They worked out deals with
> the multi-cellulars. And those cooperative arrangements gave both
> the microbes and the multi-cellular beasts whole new powers, whole
> new ways to make a living. Look, for example, at the cockroaches
> that first showed up on the planet 320 million years ago. For 69
> million years, the cockroaches were limited to easily digestible
> food. But there was hard stuff all around them bursting with
> nourishment. That oh, too solid stuff was the tree. And there was
> no way that the digestive system of cockroaches could turn bark
> and wood into tasty treats. Then came over 33 species of bacteria
> and set up shop in the cockroach’s guts. Species like
> Paenibacillus lactis, Lysinibacillusmacrolides, and
> Stenotrophomonas maltophilia.[i] These microbial wonders could eat
> cellulose, the hard stuff that had previously made wood
> indigestible. What’s more, the cellulose eaters could defecate
> material that was toast with butter and jam to the cockroaches,
> the perfect food-- sugars and short-chain fatty acids. In
> exchange, the microbes used cockroaches as their transport and
> chewing machines. The cockroaches empowered by their bacterial
> colonists to eat trees took off on an evolutionary path of their
> own. Today we call them termites. And there are 2,000 species of
> them. Which means that once the lowly cockroach allowed
> cellulose-eating bacteria and flagellates to turn its innards into
> a microbial dining hall, the newly empowered cockroaches found
> 2,000 new ways to make a living. So, no, multicellular beings did
> not wipe out their single-celled progenitors. They gave them a
> rich new home. And they gavet he unicellulars breathtaking new
> abilities. If all goes well, that will be the relationship of AI
> and humankind—symbiosis. Mutual empowerment.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Javorszky <karl.javorszky at gmail.com>
> To: 钟义信 <zyx at bupt.edu.cn>
> Cc: fis <fis at listas.unizar.es>; Pedro <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>
> Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2021 11:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fis] 回复： New Year in China
>
> Please resend the 2 papers, as my office software says it doesn't
> recognize the file format used.
> Thanks
> Karl
> 钟义信 <zyx at bupt.edu.cn <mailto:zyx at bupt.edu.cn>> schrieb am Sa., 13.
> Feb. 2021, 03:29:
>
> Dear Pedro,
>
> Please accept my warm greetings to you for the outstanding
> contributions you made to IS4SI during the past years and also for
> the Chinese new year..
>
> Here I would send you two documents of the Calls, see attachment,
> as some progresses made by China Chapter for the preparations for
> IS4SI World Summit-2021. I would be very grateful if you could
> help us by distributing the Calls to FISers.
>
> My best regards,
>
> Yixin
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> *主题:* [Fis] New Year in China
> Dear FIS Colleagues,
>
> With the occasion of the Chinese New Year, let me express our
> collective
> greetings and best wishes to the FISers there. We badly need good
> news,
> and at least the celebrations of a New Year bring us some sense of
> hope
> and forbearance in front of the present difficulties. Probably,
> when all
> of this recedes, we will be able to make fine discussions about
> social
> resilience...
>
> All the best
>
> --Pedro
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