[Fis] pats on the back #2
howlbloom at aol.com
Tue Jan 21 02:16:30 CET 2020
karl, you actually have three critical elements in your short piece. not just categorizing vs counting, but categorizing, counting, and ranking.
you've pointed to pecking orders and preferences as the root of individuality. very insightful.
with warmth and oomph--howard
From: Karl Javorszky <karl.javorszky at gmail.com>
To: fis <fis at listas.unizar.es>
Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2020 6:45 am
Subject: [Fis] pats on the back
Patting onthe back It is already a first step, if someone who one has patted onthe back recognises this and give a feedback: „he has patted me on the back”.It would be even better, if some of the intellectual contentthat was transmitted, could be understood. Let me transmit once more, this time very-very placative, whatwas a part of the intended message:There is a psychological, cultural and dogmatic tradition ofdistinguishing simple sorting andordering against counting andcalculating. We have to touch on it, as tradition builds, traditionally, apowerful resistance against taking new ideas seriously. 1.1 The subject matter is traditionally seen as toosimple, below dignityAnimals performing phototaxis, children grabbing the most fascinatingtoy, statesmen opting for the least harmful alternative: they all performoperations of ranking, sorting and ordering. Children entering schoolwill look down on those who can only distinguish on intensity, loudness, color,taste etc., but lack the ability to abstract from the properties of the thingscompared. Ranking, e.g. between what is desirable, usual or inacceptable, is afaculty of the subject, who maintains his individuality by maintaining his ownset of preferences, that is, ways of sequencing mental images. The rule de gustibus non est disputandum has led to avoiding the topic ofsequencing in learned discourse. 1.2 Lacking the concepts and the words to discuss the subject-matterFor reasons of simplicity and practicality, the Sumerianshave come up with a concept of a unit which has none of the properties of theobject it can stand for. The concept became formalised by Kant into the object as such. Our methodology of countingis based on the understanding that objects that are to be counted arerepresented by logical tokens, symbols, which are basically of uniform make,form, appearance. This rule severely restricts the access to ideas related tosequencing. The following Table shows the position of the blind spot (marked):Table 1: Position of the blind spot
| Concept | Traditional Approach | New approach |
| Units | all alike | all different |
| Example | O O O O O O | ϗ ⅌ ϼ ж ѭ ԉ |
| Distinguishable? | no | yes |
| Sorting makes sense? | no | yes |
| Different sequences can be seen? | no | yes |
| Ideas about sequences reasonable? | no, because there is nothing to talk about | yes |
| Ideas about different sequences reasonable? | no, because sequences are all alike | yes |
| Algorithm of resequencing worth thinking about? | no different sequences, so no re-sequencing thinkable | very much so |
| Anything to see? | no | oh, what a spectacle! |
Table 1: We wish to talk about the subject of patternsobserved while reordering relatively small collections of the simplest logicalobjects: numeric realisations of a+b=c, with a,b ≤ 16, a ≤ b. _______________________________________________
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