[Fis] Fwd: Re: A Curious Story (L. Kauffman)

[Pedro C. Marijuan]

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Asunto: 	Re: [Fis] A Curious Story
Fecha: 	Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:36:07 -0600
De: 	Louis H Kauffman <loukau at gmail.com>
Para: 	PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>
CC: 	fis at listas.unizar.es <fis at listas.unizar.es>



Dear Pedro,
Ok. Can we have the text of Professor Rossler’s proof that these 
mini-black holes
>
>   * cannot Hawking evaporate
>   * grow exponentially inside matter?
>
It would be very interesting to debate the details.

I find on the web:
http://www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/ottoroesslerminiblackhole.pdf

http://www.science20.com/big_science_gambles/blog/interview_professor_otto_rössler_takes_lhc-31449 
<http://www.science20.com/big_science_gambles/blog/interview_professor_otto_r%C3%B6ssler_takes_lhc-31449>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/2650665/Legal-bid-to-stop-CERN-atom-smasher-from-destroying-the-world.html

http://environmental-impact.web.cern.ch/environmental-impact/Objects/LHCSafety/NicolaiComment-en.pdf

Best,
Lou Kauffman


> On Jan 5, 2017, at 5:06 AM, PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ 
> <pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es <mailto:pcmarijuan.iacs at aragon.es>> wrote:
>
> Dear FISers,
>
> Herewith the Lecture inaugurating our 2017 sessions.
> I really hope that this Curious Story is just that, a curiosity.
> But in science we should not look for hopes but for arguments and 
> counter-arguments...
>
> Best wishes to All and exciting times for the New Year!
> --Pedro
>
>
>
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> *De:*Otto E. Rossler [oeross00 at yahoo.com <mailto:oeross00 at yahoo.com>]
> *Enviado el:*miércoles, 04 de enero de 2017 17:51
> *Para:*PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ
> *Asunto:* NY session
> ----------------------
>
> *A Curious Story*
> Otto E. Rossler, University of Tübingen, Germany
>
> Maybe I am the only one who finds it curious. Which fact would then 
> make it even more curious for me. It goes like this: Someone says “I 
> can save your house from a time bomb planted into the basement” and 
> you respond by saying “I don’t care.” This curious story is taken from 
> the Buddhist bible.
> It of course depends on who is offering to help. It could be a lunatic 
> person claiming that he alone can save the planet from a time-bomb 
> about to be planted into it. In that case, there would be no reason to 
> worry. On the other hand, it could also be that you, the manager, are 
> a bit high at the moment so that you don't fully appreciate the offer 
> made to you. How serious is my offer herewith made to you today?
> I only say that for eight years' time already, there exists no 
> counter-proof in the literature to my at first highly publicized proof 
> of danger. I was able to demonstrate that the miniature black holes 
> officially attempted to be produced at CERN do possess two radically 
> new properties:
>
>   * they cannot Hawking evaporate
>   * they grow exponentially inside matter
>
> If these two findings hold water, the current attempt at producing 
> ultra-slow miniature black holes on earth near the town of Geneva 
> means that the slower-most specimen will get stuck inside earth and 
> grow there exponentially to turn the planet into a 2-cm black hole 
> after several of undetectable growth. Therefore the current attempt of 
> CERN's to produce them near Geneva is a bit curious.
> What is so curious about CERN's attempt? It is the fact that no one 
> finds it curious. I am reminded of an old joke: The professor informs 
> the candidate about the outcome of the oral exam with the following 
> words “You are bound to laugh but you have flunked the test.” I never 
> understood the punchline. I likewise cannot understand why a never 
> refuted proof of the biggest danger of history leaves everyone 
> unconcerned. Why NOT check an unattended piece of luggage on the 
> airport called Earth?
> To my mind, this is the most curious story ever -- for the very reason 
> that everyone finds it boring. A successful counter-proof would thus 
> alleviate but a single person’s fears – mine. You, my dear reader, are 
> thus my last hope that you might be able to explain the punch line to 
> me: “Why is it that it does not matter downstairs that the first floor 
> is ablaze?” I am genuinely curious to learn why attempting planetocide 
> is fun.  Are you not?
>
> For J.O.R.
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