[Fis] Scientific communication

[Mark Johnson]

Dear Michel,

I'm mindful that we're breaking the rules of the forum so I will
follow this up off-list, but I think this is worth mentioning to the
group.

The starting point is a diagram, or a sequence of diagrams - certainly
that's most appropriate for a systems theoretical approach like
Keen's. Can you draw some pictures to explain your understanding? With
a series of diagrams, a voice-over is easy to add. (Occasionally I
start with the voice, and add the pictures)

I also want to say that sometimes this process is a sticking point for
people, because the precision of diagrams is much more demanding than
the looseness of words: often when we start to draw something, we can
see weaknesses in our position. Then it can become a matter of 'fight
or flight': does one resist exposing potential weaknesses in one's
position, and retreat back into the world of the academic paper and
words, or does one draw the diagram anyway and acknowledge its
limitations and assumptions? I am clearly encouraging people to do the
latter, not least because I think exposing the limitations of a
position is the most important thing to communicate in an uncertain
world!

Best wishes,

Mark




On 29 October 2016 at 17:31, Michel Godron <migodron at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Dear Mark,
>
> It would certainly be interesting to prepare a video. But how to make it ?
>
> My contribution would be marginal : I can only explain (in french and you
> would translate, as Richard Forman did for Landscape Ecology) why the ideas
> of Keen are parallel with the main ecological models on the role of
> informatioo in biology (La vie est une transmission et une gestion de
> l'information qui permet à chaque être vivant et à chaque communaué d'êtres
> vivants - y compris l'humanité -  de survivre).
>
> Cordialement.
> M. Godron
> Le 29/10/2016 à 15:25, Mark Johnson a écrit :
>
> Dear Michel,
>
> Ok. Steve Keen has been close to Tony Lawson's work (he presented Minsky at
> Lawson's conference last year) - he's a supporter of his broad thesis,
> although obviously he's done more mathematical modelling which Lawson has
> some possibly valid objections to.  They've had some fascinating critical
> exchanges.
>
> This blog by Steve is interesting -
> http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/13775327-the-need-for-pluralism-in-economics
>
> Hayek is in the mix, as is perhaps a shared disdain for Stiglitz and co.
>
> I like Steve's work, and his prediction of the crisis is good, and (relevant
> to this discussion) I like the fact that his simulation tool Minsky is
> freely available for download here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/minsky/
>
> So, to come back to my original comment... It's possible to explain this
> stuff  with video, isn't it?...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Mark
> ________________________________
> From: Michel Godron
> Sent: ‎29/‎10/‎2016 14:06
> To: Mark Johnson
> Subject: Re: [Fis] Scientific communication
>
> Dear Mark,
>
> You write : "I'm guessing you are thinking of the line of thought from
> Hayek to Stiglitz?" It is not at all my way. Among the economists I
> shoud be rather in agreement with Keen and Minsky (I could send some
> pages explaining (in french) why.
>
>   Cordialement. M. Godron
> Le 29/10/2016 à 14:22, Mark Johnson a écrit :
>> I'm guessing you are thinking of the line of thought from Hayek to
>> Stiglitz?
>
>
>
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