[Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 32, Issue 13

Malcolm Dean malcolmdean at gmail.com
Sat Nov 12 22:11:33 CET 2016


To an animal about to be attacked and eaten, the meaning of an approaching
predator is quite clear.

Obviously, meaning is produced by, within, and among Observers, and not by
language.

Meaning may be produced *through* language, not *in* language, as a medium
of interaction (aka communication).

I wish scientific specialists had more awareness of the effects of their
specialization.

Malcolm Dean



> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 20:29:21 +0100
> From: "Loet Leydesdorff" <loet at leydesdorff.net>
> To: "'Alex Hankey'" <alexhankey at gmail.com>, "'FIS Webinar'"
>         <Fis at listas.unizar.es>
> Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?
>
> Dear Alex and colleagues,
>
> Thank you for the reference; but my argument was about meaning. Meaning
> can only be considered as constructed in language. Other uses of the word
> are metaphorical. For example, the citation to Maturana.
>
> Information, in my opinion, can be defined content-free (a la Shannon,
> etc.) and then be provided with meaning in (scholarly) discourses. I
> consider physics as one among other scholarly discourses. Specific about
> physics is perhaps the universalistic character of the knowledge claims.
> For example: "Frieden's points apply to quantum physics as well as
> classical physics." So what? This seems to me a debate within physics
> without much relevance for non-physicists (e.g., economists or linguists).
>


> Loet Leydesdorff
> Professor, University of Amsterdam
> Amsterdam School of Communication Research (ASCoR)
>
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