[Fis] Fwd: What is life?

Alex Hankey alexhankey at gmail.com
Sat Dec 17 23:21:46 CET 2016


The problem below is with the definition of the word, 'information'.
On an abstract level, a measurable quantity of what Shannon
called digital information has been transmitted.
Whether the receiver is then 'informed' by it is a question of
his ability to interpret it, which depends on semantics.
(I can understand the English emails far easier than the
occasional Spanish ones - the Shannon information will be
the same in both, but not what I get out of it.
I thought this distinction between these had long ago
been agreed upon in Fis discussions.
Where do you stand on it Krassimir?
Best wishes,
Alex Hankey


On 18 December 2016 at 02:53, Krassimir Markov <markov at foibg.com> wrote:

> Dear Arturo,
> Your mobile is NOT able to transmit and utilize INFORMATION but some
> signals!!!
> As well as the artificial limb walk with its owner but it is not a living
> mater.
> Firstly, we have to understand what is information!
> After that ...
> Friendly regards
> Krassimir
>
>
>
>
> From: tozziarturo at libero.it
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 8:11 PM
> To: fis at listas.unizar.es
> Subject: [Fis] What is life?
>
>
> Dear
>
>
> You write: "For living beings, we know that "Life is a tramission and
> utilistion of information (not only by ADN, but by all the information
> which is used by them, at all scales for survival)".
> However, to make an example, also my mobile is able to transmit and
> utilize information.
>
> I found (and I did not look very well, to be honest) at least EIGHT
> different definitions of life in literature.
>
> Therefore, if I ask: "What is life?" I have, apart from yours, other SEVEN
> different definitions of life.
>
> What does it mean? This means that we have no idea at all about what is
> life.
>
> It is the same as if I asked: "What is love?": who knows?
>
>
>
> Arturo Tozzi
>
> AA Professor Physics, University North Texas
>
> Pediatrician ASL Na2Nord, Italy
>
> Comput Intell Lab, University Manitoba
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Alex Hankey M.A. (Cantab.) PhD (M.I.T.)
Distinguished Professor of Yoga and Physical Science,
SVYASA, Eknath Bhavan, 19 Gavipuram Circle
Bangalore 560019, Karnataka, India
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2015 JPBMB Special Issue on Integral Biomathics: Life Sciences, Mathematics
and Phenomenological Philosophy
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-- 
Alex Hankey M.A. (Cantab.) PhD (M.I.T.)
Distinguished Professor of Yoga and Physical Science,
SVYASA, Eknath Bhavan, 19 Gavipuram Circle
Bangalore 560019, Karnataka, India
Mobile (Intn'l): +44 7710 534195
Mobile (India) +91 900 800 8789
____________________________________________________________

2015 JPBMB Special Issue on Integral Biomathics: Life Sciences, Mathematics
and Phenomenological Philosophy
<http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00796107/119/3>
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