[Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores & L.deMarcos

Marcos Ortega Luis de luis.demarcos at uah.es
Sun Jul 26 21:12:45 CEST 2015


Hi Jerry,

Thank you for your comments and questions. Also apologies for late response but I was on a trip.

As for your question about cycles, actions can certainly be modeled as graphs that include cycles. We restricted our characterization to trees because:
a) cycles can imply infinite loops that in our opinion are not appropriate to model human actions
b) even considering cycles a set of actions can still be modeled a as a tree, so we consider that loops add unnecessary complexity to the model

Furthermore, we understand the products of cyclic social processes like methods and procedures as technologies that embed information. All in all, we agree that a characterization of graphs can be useful to quantify information embedded in artifacts.

Regards,

Luis de Marcos Ortega
Dpto Ciencias de la Computación               Computer Science Department
Universidad de Alcalá                                    University of Alcalá
http://www.uah.es/pdi/luis_demarcos

"Education, n. That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish their lack of understanding." Ambrose G. Bierce.

From: Fis [mailto:fis-bounces at listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Jerry LR Chandler
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Subject: Re: [Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores & L.deMarcos


List:

This comment is restricted to the proposed use of mathematical structures in context of the social.

The mathematical structure of a tree is restricted by the notion of a cycle.
A tree is readily converted into a cycle by simply adding a new edge between leaves or joints.
The simple logic of a tree is lost by including cyclic relations.

It appears to me that the rhetorical arguments may include inferences requiring cycle relations.

What would be the nature of the inferences if the hypotheses allowed for cyclic social processes, such as learning on the basis of annual agricultural or hunting cycles?

Cheers

Jerry



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