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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Jerry,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you for your comments and questions. Also apologies for late response but I was on a trip.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As for your question about cycles, actions can certainly be modeled as graphs that include cycles. We restricted our characterization
to trees because:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">a) cycles can imply infinite loops that in our opinion are not appropriate to model human actions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">b) even considering cycles a set of actions can still be modeled a as a tree, so we consider that loops add unnecessary
complexity to the model<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Furthermore, we understand the products of cyclic social processes like methods and procedures as technologies that embed
information. All in all, we agree that a characterization of graphs can be useful to quantify information embedded in artifacts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Luis de Marcos Ortega<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dpto Ciencias de la Computación
</span><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Computer Science Department<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Universidad de Alcalá University of Alcalá<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.uah.es/pdi/luis_demarcos"><span style="color:#1F497D">http://www.uah.es/pdi/luis_demarcos</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“Education, n. That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish their lack of understanding.”
</span><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ambrose G. Bierce.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Fis [mailto:fis-bounces@listas.unizar.es]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry LR Chandler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 17:02<br>
<b>To:</b> FIS Science <fis@listas.unizar.es><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fis] Information Foundation of the Act--F.Flores & L.deMarcos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This comment is restricted to the proposed use of mathematical structures in context of the social.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The mathematical structure of a tree is restricted by the notion of a cycle. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A tree is readily converted into a cycle by simply adding a new edge between leaves or joints.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The simple logic of a tree is lost by including cyclic relations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It appears to me that the rhetorical arguments may include inferences requiring cycle relations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What would be the nature of the inferences if the hypotheses allowed for cyclic social processes, such as learning on the basis of annual agricultural or hunting cycles?<o:p></o:p></p>
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