[Fis] information.energy

Stanley N Salthe ssalthe at binghamton.edu
Mon Aug 4 16:21:54 CEST 2014


Bob -- Note that I was pointing out "a sense" in which information implies
something different from energy -- especially in the context of dialectics,
which is the basis of Joseph's approach. There can be no 'precipitated'
energy (matter) without some kind of form, realizing one or some
constraints, but the concept of information (its history) tends to imply
interaction.

STAN


On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Robert E. Ulanowicz <ulan at umces.edu> wrote:

> > Stanley N Salthe <ssalthe at binghamton.edu>
> > 9:32 AM (0 minutes ago)
> > to Joseph
> > Joseph -- Commenting on:
> > ...
> > Is there not also a sense that information implies more than one entity
> > (sender-receiver, object-interpreter)? That too would tend to align with
> > the idea of energy being primary.
>
>
> But Stan, you were one of the first to recognize the broader nature of
> information as constraint. It is also inherent in structure (Collier's
> "enformation"). Hence, wherever inhomogeneities exist, so does information
> -- an argument for a common origin. Bob
>
>
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