[Fis] Farewell Habermas

Tue Mar 24 19:26:45 CET 2026

Well, I’m not well aquainted with Habermas, but nevertheless I would guess that his unconscious authoritarian attitude is  not so much connected to a marxist tradition, but to common traits in German academia. Being a German philosophy professor gives you a high prestige. And from a Swedish outlook, Germany still appears to be a hierarchical society, much more than Sweden. That Habermas seemed to be unconscious of the contradictions between his doctrines and his behaviour is a bit astonishing. But we have all problems with seeing ourselves from outside.
cheers
Lars-Göran

24 mars 2026 kl. 16:59 skrev Jason Hu <jasonthegoodman at gmail.com>:

Eric, very interesting, "Herschaftsfreie Communication" but you had actually no chance to speak. I run into those situations too.

The fewer Marxists (old school or new school), the better off our world would be. So let him RIP.

IMHO, Habermas, and all his fans, need some treatment in Gulags, or Chinese version "Jiabiangou", to improve their cognition systems. I recommend this documentary with English subtitles. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bEBG6Hqb6Y__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!XwMy-LLkC8ZKJtb6K8hAwb1eecquL6_KcwT-BQWw8rKCkCEHYuOungaOstcMzRgxiqOJy8Tto6TK4Sw3qSnSIQ4QiLRxDwhmydE$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bEBG6Hqb6Y__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!Q8zcQ4_uHawRxshlUrHWcafmIthLE7WsDej-FK4mcL0-JVgnuk1pMJYWeFYeKqVoMHhVgtD1R6j-RtjgoRKucF6LA3Fv$>
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Best regards - Jason
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 6:57 AM Dr. Eric Werner <eric.werner at oarf.org<mailto:eric.werner at oarf.org>> wrote:
On Habermas:

Thinking of von Neumann, Habermas and Wittgenstein. My  first work on the logic of games was just concerned with state information. It was via Habermas that I became aware that this view of information misses the vast world of social communication.

It is the difference between "The door is open" and "Open the door".  While I was aware of Wittgenstein and the Blue and Brown books on language games I had not formalized that. Wittgenstein had said games cannot be formalized, not realizing that in 1921 von Neumann had don that with his mathematical theory of games. I later formalized Wittgenstein's language games.

While in Munich, I went to a talk, at Habermas' institute in Starnberg, by a professor from Oxford. I criticized this professor's ideas. After the talk Habermas invited me to join them at a restaurant.

He invited me to come with him in his car, ignoring the professor from Oxford. As we entered the restaurant the locals stared and murmured that it was Habermas. Habermas wanted to know more about my communication theory.

Later he invited me to his house. I was struck by how bare, sterile was it was. Also that his wife served us like a maid as we were discussing things.

Some time later going to another meeting in Habermas' institute in Munich. Recall Habermas has this view of "herschaftsfreie Kommunikation". At the meeting we sat in a semi circle. Looking at the front from right to left Habermas was sitting somewhat at right center.

I was sitting mid left. To be Herschaftsfrei the comments started with Habermas Doktoranten and/or Asisstenten at the right, one after the other till it was Habermas' turn. He talks like the writings in his books. It went on and on till time was up.

I never got a chance to speak. So much for Herschaftsfreie Communication. It was all very rigid.

There are fundamental flaws in Habermas theory of communication which takes in much of Searles theory of speech acts. But is attempt to integrate communication and society still stands as a monumental effort.

Still I honor and appreciate this great man and the opportunity to have gotten so close and yet so far.

Farewell Dear Habermas.

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