[Fis] What are the most important 20% of Informatics?

Jason Hu jasonthegoodman at gmail.com
Tue Jun 17 02:47:10 CEST 2025


Dear FIS colleagues:

If your whole book of Informatics has 100 pages, what content would be the
most important 20 pages (per 20:80 Law)? I'm asking this question to all of
you since the Club of Remy is organizing a discussion to integrate
Systemics-Cyberentics-Informatics sister fields into a unified trinity
curriculum for the younger generation. Here is the original Call for
Discussants. I wish some of you would be kind enough to provide your
insights to answer the two questions raised in this call. You are also more
than welcome to consider attending these discussions in our Zoom meetings
later.  Best regards - Jason

*Title:  It is time to wrap up cybernetics – and distill 20% of it for a
new curriculum *
*Author: Jason Hu*
*Outline:*

Two great cyberneticians in our Club of Remy have Rest-In-Peace:  Our
beloved Professor Klaus Krippendorff and Professor Loet Leydesdorff. Our
YouTube channel now has their “Playlist” of their contributions to our
club.  A number of noted cyberneticians have reduced participation in the
recent two years; the reasons might be aging, decline of health, and/or
exhaustion of new insights from cybernetics per se. One of the used-to-be
large cybernetics discussion forums, CYBCOM, initialized by me and Stuart
Umpleby as a Listserv on an IBM mainframe more than 30 years ago, now has
only one active user posting on it (not me).

Meanwhile, huge tides in R&D and applications, initiated in 1943 by the
McCulloch-Pitts, are currently changing our world in a profound way. Some
of my colleagues might not like it, since these new waves discarded the
term “cybernetics” but use the word “AI,” even though they are deeply
related, if not identical.

After studying (and working/practicing) in the field named “cybernetics”
since 1979, through many mentors/advisors in those 47 years, I think it is
time now that we wrap up what we call “cybernetics” and start a new field
of human knowledge, SCI.” In a narrow definition, SCI stands for
Systemics-Cybernetics-Informatics trinity. In a broader definition, it
should also include and integrate Catastrophe Theory, Dissipative Theory,
Synergetics, Chaos Theory, Complexity Science, and Evolution Theory (alas,
a total of 9 names). All these names mentioned here have inner connections,
but their ideas/models/insights are spread in many different books and
papers that are severely siloed and confusing to young learners.

The Oxford Project, which started last September at the WOSC conference, is
an effort to develop a “standard model” of SCI for a new generation of
learners, with the assistance of currently available AI tools. This Call of
Discussants to all members of CoR asking if you are with me to go forward
this transition from “only cybernetics” to “SCI,” Yes or No?

If yes, here are two questions to be discussed in this session: 1-What are
the 20%  most important knowledge pieces (per 20:80 law) from “cybernetics”
that we need to present in the SCI curriculum? 2- What will be our feasible
approach to use current AI tools to make this new SCI curriculum/online
course?

I shall post question #1 to “Systemics” colleagues (ISSS) and “Informatics”
colleagues (FIS) to invite them into this Lego game (of redefining a new
field of knowledge SCI in the format of an entry-level curriculum).
ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, and Perplexity will be invited too.

If you have some ideas about these two questions, please sign up for a good
discussion.

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Jason Jixuan Hu, Ph.D.
Independent Research Scholar
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